Would you be able to support Hillary if she allies herself with Murdoch?

[eeyore]

A number of sources, including the Washington Post, have reported that Murdoch has begun a shift towards supporting Hillary Clinton for President.

Apparently Murdoch has a history of twisting with the political winds, and follows a more corporatist leaning rather than a the strict conservative perception that we tend to have of him and Fox. Would Murdoch really direct Fox towards supporting a Dem?

So, would you be able to support her as the Dem candidate if this turns out to be true?

Myself, I would not. It would prove her to be a complete and utter corporate whore.

On the other hand, a Google search turned up links of this story on NewsMax and Freeperville, so it could be complete crap.

From the WaPo article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/14/AR2005091402628_pf.html

"Recent friendly meetings between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Murdoch, recorded in the New York Observer, may be early signs of embryonic bet-hedging. Has Rupert begun to stir and put his loyalties in play again? Given his oft-expressed contempt for "gabfests" (second only to Bleeding Heart Journalism as a Murdochian term of abuse), it's interesting that he will be showing up for the Clinton Global Initiative that starts in New York today.

Murdoch knows that occasionally shifting his political support in an unexpected direction is a tactic that increases his power. It means no one can ever take him for granted, and it is an effective means of convincing politicians that helping him with his business interests is both prudent and wise -- that what's good for the News Corp. is good for America/Britain/Australia."

[truebrit71]

1. I don't support her anyway...

...whether she makes a pact with Satan or not, makes no difference to me...

Voted for the war? You don't get my support.

[rd_kent]

9. Nice to hear

that there are SOME folks who will not blindly pledge thier allegence to her.

[MojoXN]

20. Welcome to DU!

Hi there, rd_kent! Nice to have you here. Enjoy your stay!

:hi:

MojoXN

[AntiCoup2K4]

2. I won't support her anyway, but Murdoch's support would prove......

....that she's just another neocon tool.

[itzamirakul]

21. Hillary used to be a Goldwater Girl...

She was a Republican first....That is why it is not to big a stretch for her to understand and agree with many oftheir programs such as the war.

[ananda]

3. Oh gawd...

When will Dems start acting like an opposition party and retake power?

Sheesh.

Hilary is so close to the edge of Reeptilianism.

[Swamp Rat]

5. You're getting warmer!

:D

[WI_DEM]

4. he might support her for the nomination because he thinks she

might be the easiest democrat to defeat. Who knows?

[eeyore]

6. Look at the article

It details his kingmaking of Blair, which was a very unexpected union.

But you also could be right.

:shrug:

[Wilms]

7. Hillary who? n/t

[Tom Joad]

8. I hope they both rot in ....

some secret CIA prison.

[aintitfunny]

10. No. Murdoch's support of her would

clarify why I feel such ambivalence toward a possible Hillary for Pres. campaign.

[Armstead]

11. No Thanks -- That's what Tony Blair did

And look what happened to him.

[rniel]

12. Don't support her but

Wouldn't it be fun to watch Bill O'Reilly suddenly talking glowingly about the clintons. I'd get a big laugh out of that.

[ovidsen]

13. Hillary is an opportunist

I'm sorry, but that's how I see it. Switching her baseball loyalties from the Cubs to the Yanks on Letterman is one of her more transparent, laughable shifts. Certainly not as damning as her shift on the Iraq war, but you get the idea. Ambition that is not tempered by integrity or reason is not acceptable.

Count me among the ABH crowd. Anyone But Hillary. Nominating her would be death for Democrats.

[politicaholic]

14. Murdoch is very smart, but I think this might blow up in his face...

What do you think would happen if Rush all of a sudden started spouting the democratic party line regarding the environment, taxes, and foreign policy?

Murdoch thinks that he is untouchable, but I suspect that he's taking the American people for granted if he feels that a content 180 will fly.

[jillan]

15. IF Hillary somehow becomes the dem nominee in 2008

I will support her 110%, do everything in my power to see that she gets elected. Whatever it takes.

Do I want her to be the dem nominee? Hell no!
But whoever it is, has my support.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. Never have. Never will. A pandering DLC politico with zero ethics.

[MrBenchley]

17. Why not?

Who gives a shit what Murdoch does?

"It would prove her to be a complete and utter corporate whore"
How? Other than in your fantasy world?

[eeyore]

23. Fantasy world?

Murdoch's "news" corporation, which is named News Corp., has done more recent damage to Democratic values and principles than nearly any other force in the world. These are the people that cheerled for the unjustified invasion of Iraq, killing (and still killing) untold tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis, not to mention the more than 2000 of our own soldiers.

If you can stomach having that asshole on your side of the fence, then have at it, but I will not support a Presidential candidate who takes the blood money from one of the most evil corporatists in history.

Corporate whore, indeed. I stand by my "fantasy world" assessment of the situation.

If values his money and power over actual Democratic principles, then she has officially stepped outside of what I can tolerate.

Those who lie down with dogs will get fleas!
(no offense meant to dogs)

[MrBenchley]

30. So don't watch Faux Noise, fer chrissakes!

"I will not support a Presidential candidate who takes the blood money from one of the most evil corporatists in history. "
Then don't.

"I stand by my "fantasy world" assessment of the situation. "
And it still seems like peurile fantasy.

"If values his money and power over actual Democratic principles, then she has officially stepped outside of what I can tolerate. "
Hot-cha-cha. Of course, you yet to explain what Hillary is supposed to do, other than cash the check. Is there some sort of deal she's making with Murdoch that only YOU are privy to?

[eeyore]

32. I don't watch Fox.

If I watch Fox for 15 minutes it can literally piss me off for an entire day.

But I don't get the bury your head in the sand approach to this. Of course it's pure specualation, but it's being reported, and I thought it was worth mentioning to people. Just something to watch out for. Yes, it's absolutely a deal breaker for me.

"Hot-cha-cha. Of course, you yet to explain what Hillary is supposed to do, other than cash the check. Is there some sort of deal she's making with Murdoch that only YOU are privy to?"

How the hell would I know what Murdoch would ask for in return? All I know is that I'd rather my political candidates take money from the mob than Murdoch. If there is a check and she does cash it, there will absolutely be a deal.

Don't forget that it was her husband who de-regulated the media. That was, in my opinion, the worst decision an otherwise good president during his 2 terms. Maybe Murdoch still wants more - how the hell would I know?

Just thought some folks might like to know about what's being reported out there.

[MrBenchley]

33. Good for you...

"I don't get the bury your head in the sand approach to this."
Do you always panic when you read gossip columns?

"How the hell would I know what Murdoch would ask for in return? "
And yet you've got your panties in a wad over it....

"Don't forget that it was her husband who de-regulated the media."
Actually, that was Newt Gingrich. But don't let facts get in the way of your outrage.

[Loonman]

18. I don't care if Jesus Christ himself came down and said 'vote for Hillary'

Not gonna do it. She's too power hungry now.

[MojoXN]

19. I don't support her NOW, so...

I guess my answer is no.

MojoXN

[xxqqqzme]

22. cannot do it -

an alliance w/ creepy murdoch would just confirm my suspicions. Not voting for anymore DLC hacks... I'll vote green first.

[Zhade]

24. I never supported her in the first place.

As far as I'm aware, the former Goldwater Girl never recanted her support for the rightwing Contras. Yeah, THE Contras, of Iran-Contra fame.

No, thanks.

[second edition]

25. No! n/t

[leetrisck]

26. Let's see now - right wing nut case supports Hillary

therefore we won't. Once again, let the republicans call the shots and pick whatever nominee they decide. I absolutely will vote for Hillary or Clark or--- several other great people that could possibly run and I could give a damned what the right wing says or does to them. We have a tendency to believe right wing crap about all of our potential candidates regardless of what they are running for.

[eeyore]

27. I did say IF they were allied.....

I can withold judgement about this until I see the real actual proof, but multiple sources have reported on them having friendly meetings. Also, Murdoch does have a history of this sort of thing - Tony Blair is the prime example.

In my view, Fox and News Corp. are just about the most evil corporate force in the world at this particular moment. They have turned a huge number of Americans into jingoistic zombie cheerleaders for the right. They have dumbed down political debate to the point that all we hear on the "news" anymore is shouting.

I understand that politicians need money, and that corporations have the money that they need. Sometimes deals must be made. This, however, is one deal that, if true, would send me running in the other direction.

For any politician to ally themselves with Murdoch they must be one of two things:

1. A total corporate whore
2. Politically naive

I don't care who Murdoch wants to make king/queen - I'm not going along with it, Democrat, Republican, Green, Nazi, Libertarian, or Socialist. That fucker is trashing our country, and he's not even an American citizen.

May he and anyone who allies with him rot slowly and painfully.

[Czolgosz]

28. I was hoping she was going to ally herself with the Democrats for a change

[ProfessorGAC]

29. No

I would actively work against her in the primaries. Murdoch is a snake and a crook. His aversion to the truth is legendary. If she lines up with him, that's it.
The Professor

[Skidmore]

31. Hell, no!!!

She might as well cozy up to bin Laden. Murdoch is a media terrorist. Singlehandedly has done more damage to freedom of speech in this nation. This gives me one less reason to support her.

[robbedvoter]

34. Murdoch will support her in the primaries - like all MSM

They all like to pick our candidate for us and Hillary is it.
Makes no difference to me - don't want her one way or another.
But rest asured, in the general election, Murdoch will kiss BFEE ass.

[AZBlue]

35. This is all about Hillary and has nothing to do with Murdoch.

If her name wasn't involved, DU'ers would be doing cartwheels to hear Murdoch might have seen the light. Fox News might actually report, um, well, the news instead of right-wing talking points? Some of you on here would be hospitalized due to extreme bliss. But God forbid anyone on this site support Hillary. Oh no. Can't do that. She hasn't even announced running for anything beyond the Senate in '06 but already some of you are threatening to vote Republican if she should. I find it all disappointing. Very disappointing.

(Go ahead, flame away, I truly don't care. Heard it all before, won't change what I know to be true about her. So, go ahead, get if off your chest if you need to. Doesn't change the truth.)