"we do not torture".... (ummm, yeah right....)

[radfringe]

Bush Declares: 'We Do Not Torture'

President Bush on Monday defended U.S. interrogation practices and called the treatment of terrorism suspects lawful. "We do not torture," Bush declared in response to reports of secret CIA prisons overseas.

Bush supported an effort spearheaded by Vice President Dick Cheney to block or modify a proposed Senate-passed ban on torture.

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been catching snippets from various talking heads blathering about this - they have been tip-toeing (as usual) around the most obvious question

If we do not torture - then why is bush* and cheney trying to squash the legislation? Why are they trying to exempt the CIA? If we don't torture then this legislation reaffirms the claim that 'we don't torture' So why try to kill it?

you might also note this statement: "We're working with Congress to make sure that as we go forward, we make it possible, more possible, to do our job," Bush said. "There's an enemy that lurks and plots and plans and wants to hurt America again. And so, you bet we will aggressively pursue them. But we will do so under the law."

But we will do so under the law -- that's the catch -- if there is no ban on torture then torture is legal under the law.... If the CIA is exempt - then it's legal for the CIA to torture under the law

[NMMNG]

1. Bingo

"We do not torture". Of course this is not a lie if they relax the laws that define what torture is. Typical reich-wing bait and switch tactics. Welcome to Oceania. We are at war with Eastasia and have always been at war with Eastasia.

[godai]

2. Shrub's equivalent of Nixon's 'I am not a crook'.

It would be good if the new torture photos/videos were released now, to compare this evidence to his lie.

Any idea where this stands? Maybe a secret government legal maneuver based on 'national security'?

[JuneInJax]

3. That's a lie

on its face. Just the way Shrub & Co. are running the country is torturing me. And I bet a lot of others feel the same way.

Plus his saying that totally belittles everything the prisoners at Abu Ghraib went through.
Moni

[newyawker99]

6. Hi JuneInJax!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[JuneInJax]

7. thanks!

:toast: back atcha!

[Junkdrawer]

4. If Bush ever admitted he was lying, I think we would be confronted...

with the classic liar's paradox. Condi's head would explode.



Norman, coordinate

[baldguy]

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Either Bush is lying, or he's stupid - or both.