NYers: Yes Or No On Prop. 1?

[Me.]

What do you think? Common Cause and Women's League of Voters say vote yes. Got a call from Spitzer that said vote no. Opinions?

[bettyellen]

1. he's going to be on the colbert report any minute now...

i bet spitzer will mention it.

[Cassandra]

2. Liz Krueger, who is my state senator...

and a reformer says NO. If she and Spitzer agree on this, I'll go along with them.

[Me.]

4. Did She Say Why?

The ads for yes say it is to balance the budget for the first time in many years.

[BurtWorm]

16. The argument against it is that it can actually make the budget problem

worse, because if the deadline is passed, the legislature will have the authority to spend money without the governor's signature. It doesn't solve the problem it pretends to address and only makes it worse.

So I hear.

[NYFlip]

3. I asked this on another thread

The poster said her union said vote yes but she's voting no because it would involve giving more power to the repugs in office and it might be different if Spitzer was in office. Bottom line I'm not sure either. Would like more opinions.

[baldguy]

5. Conservatives , Republicans, Libertarians against it.

"The Powers That Be" are against it. Pataki is against it.

Good enough for me. I'm voting "Yes".

[Me.]

6. Good Point

Also the one about unions saying vote yes. The only thing that bothers me is why Spitzer would urge no. I hope he isn't going to turn out to be someone other than who I think he is.

[baldguy]

8. Prop One takes the budget away from the Governor

Spitzer wants to be the Governor. 'nuf said.

[aquart]

7. What's the language on it?

[Me.]

9. This Is It

"I. Amendment to Articles IV and VII of the Constitution, in relation to the submission of the budget to the Legislature by the Governor

The proposed amendment to Articles IV and VII of the Constitution would change the process for enactment of the state budget by (a) providing for a contingency budget if the Legislature does not act on the Governor’s appropriation bills before the start of the fiscal year; (b) placing limits on the amount of spending during such contingency period; (c) once such contingency period begins, eliminating the requirement that the Legislature act on the Governor’s proposed appropriation bills, and instead authorizing the Legislature to end the contingency period by adopting a multiple appropriation bill making changes to the contingency budget, subject to line item veto by the Governor; and (d) authorizing the Legislature, subject to veto by the Governor, to modify the spending limits for future contingency budgets, except that such changes cannot take effect until three years after enactment. The proposed amendment also sets forth certain requirements for the operation of a fiscal stabilization reserve fund, from which money could be disbursed in a subsequent year. It would require estimates and information provided by state departments to the Governor for use in preparing the budget to be available to the public. It would provide a date certain by which the Governor must submit a budget and appropriation bills to the Legislature. It would reduce the time the Governor has to make changes to the budget and appropriation bills submitted to the Legislature without the Legislature’s consent from thirty days to twenty-one days. Shall the proposed amendment be approved?"

[Deb]

10. I'm voting no,no,no

NYS Senator Bruno(R)cooked this up. It would take budget power away from the Governor, just as we are about to get a Dem in office. :wow:

[NYFlip]

11. Thanks

That's the best explanation I've heard so far. I too will vote no.

[Me.]

12. So It Would Be Controlled By Silver & Bruno? n/t

[Deb]

13. Not exactly, here is a link that might help you decide

http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/fea/20051031/202/1639#3

NY has budget problems but I just don't think this is the way to fix them.

[Me.]

14. Very Interesting

Thanks

[egadsbrain]

15. Good link! Gotham Gazette...

is where I go when I need help figuring out these proposals. I decided to vote no. Spitzers opinion probably "tipped" my vote.

[aquart]

17. Got it. Vote no.

[Me.]

18. Well, We'll Know In A Few Hours

How this all shakes out