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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 09:03 AM
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TPM re FBI - Niger forgeries: "None of that adds up. Something's wrong."

Here's a snippet from an Isikoff and Hosenball Newsweek update on the Niger-Uranium story and the FBI's curiously unthorough investigation.

-snip- (full Newsweek article is below)
Is that really how it is? Please.

As those of you who are following my on-going series of installments on this story know, I spent time with Martino during both of those visits to the US. And this line about not being able to compel him to testify is a crock.

I don't know what the Bureau's authority would have been in such a case. But whether they had any power to compel Martino to talk is irrelevant because they didn't even try to contact him while he was here.

When Martino came to the US the first time last year, it was in early summer. His identity was then still a secret. At least it hadn't yet been published anywhere. So there's no way to know whether the FBI investigators would have known that this sixty-something Italian man flying into New York was a central player in the forgeries drama.

The second time he came, however, was in early August. And by that time his name had been splashed across papers in several European countries, as well as in the Financial Times, which of course you can find on newsstands in most large US cities.

He flew to New York under his own name. And no FBI, law enforcement or intelligence officials made any attempt to contact him during the several days he remained in the US.

There have now been a number of press reports about the alleged FBI investigation into the forgeries story. The Bureau has stated publicly that they have closed the investigation and that they did so after determining that there were no political motives behind the hoax, only a desire to make money. They made that determination without figuring out who forged them or even talking to the guy at the center of the story. And the reasons they're giving for not talking to him are, frankly, bogus.

None of that adds up.

Something's wrong.


http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_11_06.php#006939



Here is the Newsweek article:


Intel Probe: The Yellowcake Mystery

Newsweek
Nov. 14, 2005 issue - The FBI ended a two-and-a-half-year probe into the Niger uranium documents without resolving a key mystery: who forged papers used to bolster President Bush's case for war in Iraq? The bureau announced that the documents, purportedly showing attempts by Saddam Hussein's government to purchase yellowcake uranium, were concocted for financial gain rather than to influence U.S. foreign policy. But Sen. Jay Rockefeller, vice chair of the Senate intelligence committee, had questions. Without more info about the "thoroughness" of the bureau's efforts, he said, "I cannot make a judgment on the accuracy of the conclusions."


Frustrated by the Investigation: Senator Reid closed the door

The forged documents are a backdrop to the CIA leak case involving the wife of ex-diplomat Joe Wilson. The CIA sent Wilson in February 2002 to look into the Niger uranium issue after Italy's military-intelligence agency, SISMI, got copies of the forged papers and sent reports about them to the CIA and other Western intel agencies. But a senior bureau official, requesting anonymity because of the matter's sensitivity, told NEWSWEEK the FBI never interviewed Rocco Martino, the Italian businessman who provided the documents to SISMI. Because there was no apparent violation of U.S. law, the bureau couldn't compel him to talk—even though he twice visited the United States last year to be interviewed by CBS's "60 Minutes." (The story never aired.) Last week Martino talked again, telling an Italian newspaper he played "a double, triple game"—working as a freelance agent for SISMI and French intelligence. Martino said he was instructed by a SISMI agent to pick up the docs from a woman at the Niger Embassy in Rome. "I was simply the deliveryman," he said, adding he had no idea the papers were fraudulent. Italian intel chief Gen. Nicola Pollari denied that his agency forged the documents, but claimed SISMI warned the United States the documents were fraudulent after Bush mentioned Saddam's interest in buying uranium from Africa in his January 2003 State of the Union Message.

Democratic frustrations about the Iraq war boiled over last week when Minority Leader Sen. Harry Reid forced the Senate into a rare closed session to demand progress on a stalled Senate intel-panel probe. Intel chair Sen. Pat Roberts then agreed to complete the investigation. The panel has assembled nearly 500 prewar public statements by officials of both parties about Saddam's weapons programs and terror links. Committee staffers have matched the pronouncements—which include statements by Dems and Clintonites as well as Bush spokesmen and Capitol Hill GOPers—with prewar intel reports. But Roberts says only senators—not staffers—should draft final conclusions about whether the public statements were hyped, a procedure that infuriates Dems. Critics say Roberts has also stymied an inquiry into whether Pentagon units "cherry-picked" intel reports on Saddam. Roberts turned that probe over to the Pentagon's inspector general; a spokesman for the Pentagon IG declined to comment.

—Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9938998/site/newsweek/


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 09:08 AM
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1. Newsflash: Robert Mueller refused to prosecute BCCI criminals when he was
in charge as US Attorney on the case.

BushInc NEEDED Mueller as head of the FBI to continue covering up for their criminal network.

When Mueller refused to prosecute, Kerry took the evidence to Robert Morgenthau in NY to keep the case alive.

Mueller is oNLY in office to protect the BFEE, and not to serve justice. I would bet anything that there are FBI agents who are fully aware of this, just as there are honest CIA working to expose the lies.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 10:19 AM
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2. Thanks for the Newsflash. It definitely helps explain the shocking
actions of the FBI.

Do they expect us to now believe the FBI is full of incompetent Brownies?

Is incompetence better then deceit?

Josh is right - None of it adds up and something is very, very wrong.
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blossomstar Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:13 PM
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11. I's say it's wrong! How about CRIMINAL?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:04 PM
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10. he's one of the "cleaners"
Edited on Mon Nov-07-05 12:04 PM by burythehatchet
when I see his picture I am reminded of the great scene from Pulp Fiction where they shoot the guy in the back seat and have to call in the cleaner.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:13 PM
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12. You got it - EXACTLY.
That would probably make a great essay or article. The Bush administration as Pulp Fiction.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 10:32 AM
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3. Yeah this whole thing is starting to stink more and more.
Thanks for the update.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 10:41 AM
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4. Yes, the stench is unbelievable bad.
Edited on Mon Nov-07-05 10:48 AM by Pirate Smile


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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:05 AM
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5. Very wrong. And I for one haven't forgotten an FBI official asking Ames
poisons records to be destroyed after the anthrax attack, and the records keeper complying.

Records that had been kept for 70 years.

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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:58 AM
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9. No way!
That's pretty serious. Got a link?

I swear just to investigate the criminal behavior and cover-ups surrounding this administration we'd have to create another agency.

Any ideas on what to call the new department?

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:14 PM
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13. I did save the article, but I'll have to look for it.
I save a lot of articles, so it may take awhile!
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:52 PM
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14. No hurry. I'm just fascinated and infuriated. n/t
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:07 AM
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6. And Martino was never interviewed
This is it, baby. We are going to learn who forged that document one way or the other. The Italian investigation should uncover it. Or La Republicca. When Cheney started committing international crimes he didn't bet on international law enforcement.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:26 AM
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7. The FBI, CIA, Mossad, SISMI, all have agents
that are connected to THEM (the Freemasonry Brootherhood Elite) that pull the strings from unseen hands

so went 911, and a whole bunch of other crimes

Bama
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:38 AM
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8. The fish is rotting from the head down.
Edited on Mon Nov-07-05 11:46 AM by formercia
Martino is merely a cutout. The real perpetrators of this op have yet to be exposed. Somebody is quashing this investigation big time.
I cannot believe Martino's name wasn't on the watch list, The Bureau shold have had agents waiting for him when he got off the plane. I would bet this goes right to Berlusconi and his Poobah Mafia buddies.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 02:37 PM
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15. FBI is rotting from Mueller on down. We need honest agents to come forward
and speak to the press like those in the CIA who reported that Bush's WH was cooking the intel books on Iraq.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 03:40 PM
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16. bump-don't let this thread die.
we've only scratched the surface on this one.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:27 AM
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17. It looks like the FBI ain't doing their job and is covering up something.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:30 AM
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18. At one time, not so long ago, we were looking for Chalabi also...
and isn't he visiting with little fanfare?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 09:23 AM
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19. The admin will continue to grease his palm
He's partially responsible for their success.(sarcasm)
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