Jesus Fuck!

[JohnnyCougar]

Sometimes I just get so mad that my country is committing mass murder. What power have I to stop it?

I am going to start reading up on Ghandi. This is the breaking point. I have to do something drastic, like go on a hunger strike chained to a light pole next to the NBC building in Chicago. But it's starting to get cold and I have my thesis to work on and classes to finish up this semester.

When I graduate in May, if we are still at war, I will honestly be about doing this. I can go for weeks on a diet of a handful of rice per day. If it's Summer, I won't die of cold, either. I wish I had done this this last Summer.

Maybe I can get 20 or so people to do this with me. Maybe we can lie on the street covered with cow blood for weeks at a time and say we are calling attention to the murders of our own troops and Iraqi civilians. And only until the war has ended will we feel good enough to eat again. I could surround myself with pictures of dead soldiers and Iraqis.

Do you think it would work? Do you think the Chicago police would arrest me and take me in? Would you be willing to join me in May?

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[hwmnbn]

3. Do you plan on doing anything......

RonRonTaiwan?

[Journeyman]

2. Here's where Ghandi & King got partial inspiration. . .

for their ideals for civil disobedience. I'm sure Henry Thoreau will give you equal cause for reflection.


Henry David Thoreau: Civil Disobedience

http://eserver.org/thoreau/civil.html

http://www.cs.indiana.edu/statecraft/civ.dis.html


"I became convinced that noncooperation with evil is as much a moral obligation as is cooperation with good. No other person has been more eloquent and passionate in getting this idea across than Henry David Thoreau. As a result of his writings and personal witness, we are the heirs of a legacy of creative protest."
- Martin Luther King, Jr, Autobiography, Chapter 2

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[bananas]

8. A couple of recent posts I saved that seem relevant

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
mahina Wed Nov-02-05 10:20 PM
12. The tools exist now to fight, the resources are still with us.
The Albert Einstein Institution (aeinstein.org) has downloads available for free from the most respected authors in the field of social change and peace.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
brainshrub Sat Nov-05-05 06:31 AM
Zen politics.
I won't go to deeply into it right now, but this week I learned a valuable lesson about power.
Namely: You don't have to be famous, rich or powerful effect massive change. All you have to do is apply a tiny bit of action at just the right time, and then everything else cascades.
When I was at Camp Casey I got some damn good advise from some very smart people, and I've been applying it locally... I'm absolutely amazed at the results!
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[whatever4]

5. and so it goes

discourse deleted, dissent silenced and all is well.

Good luck kid, be careful and stay hydrated.

[jbane]

6. Please change the subject out of respect!

That's pretty offensive and I hope it does not happen again.

[Lex]

14. I think he intends it to get attention.

And it does.

[Tony_Illinois]

7. This is a troubling post

for multiple reasons. Perhaps good intentions implemented badly.

[kansasblue]

9. I agree the title is unnecessary offensive to christians and add nothing

[JohnnyCougar]

25. Sorry.

I am a Catholic, and I didn't think it was offensive, nor did I mean to offend.

Just to express my grief.

[ArkDem]

10. If it was really important to you you would already be doing it.

I've been chained to a table inside a local Baskin-Robbins for a month. I'm getting by ok and they are letting me use their wireless network and an outlet to recharge my notebook batteries. Other than gaining about 10 pounds I am still healthy.

[donheld]

11. It's not Ghandi time. It's Malcolm X Time - "By Any Means Necessary"

I like the peaceful way, but sometimes you gotta say "by any means necessary."

[DerekG]

12. There is a place for the John Browns of the world

I"m not necessarily advocating anything, but John Brown's brigade accomplished more in one night than the abolitionists did with their 30 year moral suasion tactics.

Just saying...

[Az]

13. I don't understand why the Whitehouse is not under siege

I mean Nixon was undersiege and it nearly drove him batty. Why are there not continuous protests outside the WH? Wherer is the outrage?

If people started showing up and staying outside the WH it would get noticed eventually. At the very least Georgie would have to notice it.

[alphadog]

15. How about

you change your subject line so as not to offend needlessly? Your point is unrelated to the subject, and the choice of words for the subject is offensive.

[Lex]

16. I'd suggest using the "Ignore Thread" option.

[JohnnyCougar]

23. Sorry...I didn't think it was offensive, and I didn't mean for you to be

offended.

It was an expression of extreme anguish.

For some reason, I can't edit my thread title. I think the editing period has been cut down severely on DU.

If mods think it is offensive, they can change it to:

"I'm so fucking pissed off" of something.

[becauseitstrue]

17. Taking a stand

I am glad you are thinking about alerting the public to the mass slaughter in Iraq. Of course you mean the murder of Shiites and Kurds by Sadaam right?

[New Earth]

18. how much do you really care about those Kurds

and Shiites? *just curious*

[Lex]

20. He doesn't.

If he did, he'd be concerned about how many innocent Iraqis are dying each day IN HIS NAME, BY HIS COUNTRY.

[Lex]

19. No Mr. One Post. HIS COUNTRY is what he's concerned about.

Saddam didn't do what you said on behalf of YOU and ME.

Bush is slaughtering WAY MORE than Saddam ever did of innocent Iraqis. In our name.

Enjoy your stay at DU.

[Just Me]

21. Uh,...with the direct backing of your fucked-up corporacrats,...

,...thank you very much!!!

[JohnnyCougar]

24. I am not responsible for Saddam.

And niether are you.

I am only responsible for the war crimes committed by my country because this is a Democracy.

[Conan_The_Barbarian]

22. That is exactly what I said

A few hours after I ate some of this Taco pie stuff, and I was running to a toilet. Ugh I really don't think I should go to the gym in fear of what might happen...

[ArkDem]

26. Oh, the HUMANITY!!!

>street covered with cow blood <

Sounds a bit unsanitary.............