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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:25 PM
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mccain is telling california voters to vote for arnold'sproposition
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 12:26 PM by still_one
MCCAIN STAY THE F**K OUT OF CALIFORNIA POLITICS

IT ISN'T YOUR STATE. KEEP YOUR MIND ON YOUR OWN STATE YOU RACIST PIG who voted against making Martin Luther King a national holidy, taking brides from keating and associates in the S&L scandal, and allowing your boyfriend to insult your wife and child, and still support him for president
your a whore just like the party you belong to


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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:32 PM
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1. I'm always surprised to see DUers embrace McCain, or say he's
"not as bad as the others".

He's just as bad, if not worse. McCain goes to great lengths to portray himself as some sort of moderate, but whenever a fascist or a corporate fraud needs a little push over the finish line, McCain is there, pushing.

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:45 PM
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5. I couldn't agree with you more
he is NO moderate

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:51 PM
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11. I've said it a hundred times. McCain is a two-headed snake.
He has always made me nauseous.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:36 PM
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18. Same here. I just don't "get" how some DUers believe his BS.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:42 PM
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21. I totally agree with you.
I never, ever cared for McCain.
I think he's a scum bag. Poor choice of words but that's all I can think to say about him him. He speaks from both sides of his fucked up face.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:36 PM
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2. Tells you all you need to know about how
well Ahnold's doing that he believes he needs McCain to get his message out. Assholes, both.
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OhNoTheyDidNot Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:36 PM
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3. McCain can go F himself. He lost all credibility when he allowed BushCo
to run his name through the mud and then kissed up to him like they were buddies. F U McCain, you are an embarrasment
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:41 PM
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4. I certainly agree that McCain has no business getting into CA's
elections. I used to admire McCain, but since his campaign against Bush, he's just swarmy to me, and I find nothing to admire in him now.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:49 PM
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6. the problem is that people admire his courage in Viet Nam
but that is NOT the same thing as being a who does the right thing or has integrity

Pete Rose is a great baseball player, but definitely has other issues which question his integrity
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sirjohn Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:50 PM
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7. MCCain - media hound
Portrays himself as an independent free-thinker but he's just a populist media hound.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:42 PM
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13. Hi sirjohn!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:53 PM
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8. Don't Worry, We're Kicking Steroid Arnie's Ass Tuesday
... no matter what carpetbagging Bush kissing Rove flunky they send our way.

Nobody around here gives a shit about what the Brownshirt's boy has to say. About anything.

http://www.arnoldsneighborhood.com/index.html
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:58 PM
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9. Yeah, if it's about "fairness", why are Repub thugs pushing it so hard?
They've lined up a bunch of biggies trying to get Arnie's shit through.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 01:00 PM
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10. "Buttboy" for bushit. Go eff yerself!
What a loser. A walking disappointment. I'm sure he's removed all the mirrors from his house.

Gyre
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 03:17 PM
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12. All good reasons why he doesn't deserve higher public office.
Public orifice, maybe. But, that's another story.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:44 PM
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14. Weird. He Melted Down at Maria When She Was a Reporter
Something about her pushing in the crowd of reporters and his daughter getting jostled. And he blew.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:47 PM
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15. I remember that little episode. He was downright rude to Maria
and said something like "why don't you get out of here". I don't know what she did to him, but his reaction was really bad.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:04 PM
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16. McCain is buttkissing, paying homage to *Co, after being castrated by
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 06:47 PM by tiptoe
them politically. California is the world's 5th-largest economy, and all these "out-of-state entrepreneurs" are drooling to ripoff the "blue" state financially, sabotage it politically, and pollute it environmentally -- i.e. the Bush-Family-Evil-Empire way (as per Iraq...and America).

"Congratulations, McCain! Ya may be no girlyman! But if ya can't beat 'em, ya can become their media whore."

"Him speaketh out both sides of pie-hole."



The NeoKon/Korporatist monies being used to Blitzkrieg America are profits from a "war" based on a 'pack of LIES', through political majorities based on ELECTION SYSTEM FRAUD.

Eisenhower warned in 1954 about "a tiny splinter group" including "a few...Texas oil millionaires." One descriptive facet of those "negligible in number" and "stupid" people accords well with a 2005 Neocon, in contrast to a "traditional" Republican like DDE: Predator Bush' direct management input to the New Orleans emergency -- i.e. outside of guitar-pluckin' & cake-eatin' ("it's hard work") -- was to "eliminate labor laws" (a policy recently reported in reversal).
...Now it is true that I believe this country is following a dangerous trend when it permits too great a degree of centralization of governmental functions. I oppose this--in some instances the fight is a rather desperate one. But to attain any success it is quite clear that the Federal government cannot avoid or escape responsibilities which the mass of the people firmly believe should be undertaken by it. The political processes of our country are such that if a rule of reason is not applied in this effort, we will lose everything--even to a possible and drastic change in the Constitution. This is what I mean by my constant insistence upon "moderation" in government. Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas.5 Their number is negligible and they are stupid...
Dwight David Eisenhower, 1954, Presidential Papers


What NeoKons believe and how they operate are exposed in HIJACKED REPUBLICANS. Note the language used by Michael Ledeen, to get a sense of their "whirlwind" "Blitzkreig" mentality and how "Chaos" events like Hurricanes and war-looting can be re-viewed or re-defined as "creative destruction" opportunties...all in a manner and style distinctly mimmicking of Nietzsche (which is not to suggest Bush ever read any Nietzsche or even appreciates his advisors' motives and methods, i.e. their "political philosophy"):
Here are current administration players in their own words...

"I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it to the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub." Grover Norquist, on NPR 2001
Grover Norquist is the mastermind of the radical fiscal policies, behind which there is definitely a hidden agenda. He is a Washington power broker who oversees coordination of administration players through a weekly breakfast, attended by all branches of government.

“Creative destruction is our middle name, both within our society and abroad. We tear down the old order every day, from business to science, literature, art, architecture, and cinema, to politics and the law. Our enemies have always hated this whirlwind of energy and creativity which menaces their traditions (whatever they may be) and shames them for their inability to keep pace. … <W>e must destroy them to advance our historic mission.”
Michael Ledeen
Michael Ledeen is a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a major think tank, and influential with Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.

“We are different from previous generations of conservatives. We are no longer working to preserve the status quo. We are radicals, working to overturn the present power structure of this country.” Paul Weyrich
Paul Weyrich is founder of the Heritage Foundation, which has itself been at times called a shadow government, due to its influence with leaders.


This might not sound so alarming, unless you realize that they carry no great allegiance to the structures of democracy, nor to the Constitution. Or unless you realize that they carry great influence and can see the traces of that influence in the actual deeds of the administration...

Hopefully, Fitzgerald will smoke out their Constitutional trangressions. (Ledeen's name has been mentioned in connection with the Niger forgeries.)



Prop 73 = Oil and Pharmaceutical companies gimmick to draw out numbers of "right-wing wackos" to vote.

Bernie Ward guest last night -- "Tom ???" -- recommended "Vote NO" on ALL the CA propositions, to send a message NOT to abuse the initiative process. Oil and Pharmaceutical companies are using (Cheney's) preemptive war and (Frist's) Medicare presription drug program windfall profits against the people, abusing the initiative process in California. Ahnold "serviced" Ken Lay by running for governor to protect the robbers' $9 Billion illicit gains. ILLICIT monies corrupting America once more. Now, we're seeing the NeoKon Korporatist Blitzkrieg going all out to assault California's political system ($450 Million!)...a continuation of the vulgar sabotage of Democracy's election system.

Ahnold is a lazy-brained shortcutter, who scammed California voters by not disclosing his "intercourse" with Ken Lay in 2001.

1) Oct 5, 2003--Arnold's Enron Secret (FBI-seized Enron email reveals May 17, 2001 intercourse with Lay -- two years before running for governor and 30 days after Lt Gov Bustamante initiated a lawsuit on the State level to recover $9 Billion of illicit gains that were denied Gray Davis on appeal at the Federal level by the FERC, 2 of whose 3 commissioners were appointed by Bush on recommendation by Lay)
2) Oct 7, 2003--Recall election - Ahnold wins (California loses)
3) Oct 15, 2003--Told'ya So (Within days of election, one of first acts as the Terminator-Governor: settle the legal claims for pennies on the dollar, aborting the Lt. Gov's lawsuit and sabotaging aggressive California pursuit of recovery.)

(excerpts from above links here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5251381&mesg_id=5251805 )

BTW, Bank of America HQ -- once California-based -- merged with Nations Bank in 1998. Bank of America was PG&E's lead lender. PG&E owns energy infrastructure in California.
Duke Energy was one of the energy companies complicit in California energy-gaming, almost bankrupting PG&E. (How would Nations Bank benefit by PG&E's bankruptcy?)

Nations Bank HQ is across the street from Duke Energy HQ (at least was then).

Nations Bank, 101 S Tryon St Charlotte NC 28255 (704) 358-0827
Duke Energy, 128 S Tryon St Charlotte NC 28202 (704) 373-4191
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:34 PM
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17. Frankencain should go back to Arizona
where I hope he shrivels up in the sun and turns black, then gets racially profiled by fascist AZ cops who leave him looking like a salted slug.
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Marlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:42 PM
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20. You Know
People might be able to get away with taking shots at me, but
I'll fight like a tiger for anyone attacking my husband or child.
Politics makes strange bed fellows but McCain is absolutely
sick in the head to have allowed & then 'forgot' what they
did to his family. I will never have any respect for that person,
I won't even call him a man.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:40 PM
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19. Can't Ahnold fight his own battles, can't he 'win' on his own 'merits'?
As a native Californian with family members in California, McCain can go F himself!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 07:40 PM
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22. John McCain, Hypocrite
I will post this everytime I see his name here on DU.

John McCain, Hypocrite
by Doug Ireland

John McCain, the media's darling, has found a clever way around his own campaign finance reform law to take big corporate bucks in furtherance of his political ambitions while carrying water for the corporate mammoth providing the dough. But the national press is ignoring the story.

The Associated Press first ran the story of John McCain's odorous but lucrative Senatorial service to the communications giant Cablevision on the afternoon of March 7. But, while some local papers in McCain's home state (like the East Valley Tribune) have run the story, nothing has as yet made it into the print editions of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, or any of the half-dozen other big city dailies I checked (although, if one searches the hundreds of AP stories available on the Post's website on its Politics page by clicking on "Latest Wire Reports," one can find it there--but how many readers would bother to do that?) One notable exception: the Kansas City Star.

Here's what the AP's investigation found:

McCain repeatedly intervened on behalf of a policy Cablevision favored -- one which "congressional and private studies conclude could make cable more expensive" -- while his chief political adviser, Rick Davis (who's masterminding McCain's probable '08 presidential rerun) solicited $200,000 in contributions from Cablevision to an institute that promotes McCain and pays Davis a $110,000 annual salary.

The Reform Institute was set up to promote McCain and his issues--especially campaign finance reform, embodied in the famous McCain-Feingold law. This Institute is "a tax-exempt group that touts McCain's views and has showcased him at events since his unsuccessful 2000 presidential campaign," and it "often uses the senator's name in press releases and fund-raising letters and includes him at press conferences," the AP says. And, of course, it provides a cushy sinecure with no heavy lifting for McCain's main man, Davis, as he prepares the pontificating Senator's next presidential run. Cablevision's contributions account for a whopping 15% of the Institute's budget.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0309-35.htm
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