Roberts said they were about to complete the report anyway next week

[rodeodance]

Imus in the Morning was giving a news story about the Senate close down yesterday and I believe this is what he said. Did anyone catch it?

[rodeodance]

1. I caught the end of this news report.

[rodeodance]

3. Imus is repeating this as he talkes with Andrea Mitchell.

[burythehatchet]

2. thanks for the day's first guffaw

[rodeodance]

4. Mitchell saying the Dems wanted to focus on the prewar intel. Yup.

[rodeodance]

8. Does anyone find it strange that if this were true-no Dem seemed to

know about it??? What is going on?

[AtomicKitten]

5. Um, you mean START the report ...

big difference, except for that fact that bullshit makes the difference moot.

[bowens43]

6. They are going to do this

without having held a single meeting in the last 20 months......right.

[rodeodance]

11. It is just the strangest thing I have heard. And Imus repeated it.

[merbex]

7. And can you say Bullshit??!!

I can and I hope other Dems will join me in saying that to Pat Roberts

[Lindsay]

12. Somebody - Reid, Durbin, or Schumer - said during their

press conference in the hallway that the Repugs would say the report was being worked on, and he was just giving fair warning of the spin.

Gotcha!

[whatever4]

16. YES

I saw that. I can't recall exactly what they said, but the gist was, anything that was said to be in the works for Phase 2 was actually planned after these goons were told about the secret session. The dems said they had pushed and pushed and been promised NOTHING. It was like a preemptive statement from the dems, which is basically what they called it. The dems said something like "You're going to hear them say blah blah blah they've done this or that, but none of it was planned until after we told them".

Also, unless I'm badly mistaken, Frist is lying through is TEETH when he says the secret senate took him by surprise. He was notified BEFORE the senate meeting, which the Dems also said beforehand. Surprise? Hardly a surprise if he was told that morning, and the action took place after lunch. If he didn't tell anyone ELSE, it can hardly be blamed on the Dems now, can it?

Sad when they have to lie about virtually everything, even when they're "surprised", isn't it? Pathetic. Lying when you don't have to lie is compulsive, isn't it?

No, this is what makes me think that what the Dems are doing must be artful, because the repubs had to lie immediately, and their lies had no cover.

Isn't it sickening to see people still following them though? I think, at this point, we've separated the conservatives from the crazies. The bottom of the barrel is nothing but sludge now, because no self respecting adult could stand by so many treasonous lies.

[Kber]

39. Frist was suprised they actually did it.

[whatever4]

42. I imagine you're right

Changing plans in midstream isn't what they're good at, is it? I bet you're right.

Is it evil to feel somewhat satisfied to see these neocon jerks being represented by such pathetic liars? How embarrassing, that your best of the best can't even talk on his feet. How rich to see them so poorly represented, red-faced from defending their side again and again. Without enough ammo. As is typical of their "war planning". Not enough ammo, too few good warriors, and it isn't even an ethical fight in the first place. That covers virtually everything the neocons have done.

Stealing the election, using torture, in everything they do, they can't help but get caught. You'd think the criminals would hire better criminal minds. In their arrogance, they believed they could get by with "yes men". And, they were wrong.

HA! I hope it isn't too evil. I revel in their painful embarrassment and shame. They ought to be ashamed. They've certainly made US ashamed. Welcome to the real world. Now shoulder your burden of shame, you selfish bastards.

[LynneSin]

9. Sorry Pat - we couldn't wait any longer

ASSHOLE!!!

[Missy M]

10. and the check is in the mail!!!!

[rodeodance]

13. Rosen claims Roberts coordinating with VP language of Phase II

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=10446
The Report They Forgot

From our November issue: The Fitzgerald probe reminds us: Whatever happened to Pat Roberts' Phase II intelligence report?

By Laura Rozen
Web Exclusive: 10.19.05



In February 2004, the Senate Select Intelligence Committee (SSCI) announced that it had unanimously agreed to expand its investigation of prewar Iraq intelligence from focus on intelligence community blunders and into the more controversial area of “whether intelligence was exaggerated or misused” by U.S. government officials. The committee’s ranking Democrat, Jay Rockefeller, struck the agreement with Chairman Pat Roberts -- provided, Roberts insisted, that the probe into policy-makers’ activities wait until after the presidential election.

It’s now more than a year later, and Rockefeller is still waiting -- the Phase II report has yet to appear. What happened? And why isn’t Rockefeller making more of a fuss?.......



But that was then. Today, committee Republicans view their mission as being not oversight but cover-up. Indeed, one source told the Prospect that Roberts has worked closely behind the scenes with Vice President Dick Cheney’s office in crafting the language defining and limiting the investigation’s terms -- even though the committee is supposed to be investigating and providing oversight of the administration’s use of Iraq intelligence. Yet the committee’s leading Democrat, Rockefeller, hobbled by criticism from within the committee -- and according to one account, “a wimp … not confident of his own judgments” -- has felt constrained from pushing the majority more aggressively to comply with its promise.

[rodeodance]

14. Why don't any Dems on this committee know about this?

[Missy M]

17. Now is the time for Rockefeller to stop being a wimp because he...

has a majority of the country behind him.

[rodeodance]

19. this says Rockefeller got zapped by Hannity and the RW press.

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=10446
The Report They Forgot
From our November issue: The Fitzgerald probe reminds us: Whatever happened to Pat Roberts' Phase II intelligence report?

By Laura Rozen
Web Exclusive: 10.19.05


“The investigation is ongoing,” one committee staffer says. “It is sort of in the ending stage. Every once in awhile, a little campaign gets going that it’s being buried or covered up. That doesn’t reflect reality. is not ambiguous. He thinks it’s a monumental waste of our time, but we’re doing it.”

Democratic staffers confirm that after a long stall, the investigation is again limping forward. “I'm cautiously optimistic that we're actually -- finally -- going to wrap it up,” Wendy Morigi, spokeswoman for Rockefeller, e-mailed the Prospect. “Frankly, I think they’ve felt significant public pressure to finish it ... . Now the trick is going to be to make sure that we have a public report that is an honest, fair, and accurate picture of what happened. And that is where we're likely to find another struggle.”
* * *

Through all the delays, Rockefeller hasn’t exactly been Mr. Aggressive in pushing Roberts to abide by his promise for swift action. There are several reasons why. The most obvious is simple math: The Republicans have more votes on the committee than the Democrats. “In fairness, if you follow the committee rules and procedures, which is trying to do, he has been slam-dunked by the Republicans,” one source says. “And they have the votes.”

A second problem for Rockefeller: An internal staff memo urging him to call for an independent investigation of the administration’s use of Iraq intelligence was leaked to FOX News’ Sean Hannity in November 2003. The resulting mini-furor that erupted in the right-wing media has contributed to Rockefeller’s reluctance to act.

[Missy M]

21. I understand the republicans having more votes on the committee..

but Rockefeller and the Democrats have to stand up to the likes of Hannity and fight back. Rockefeller never should have been reluctant to act because of Fox News.

[rodeodance]

22. oh, I toally agree.

[WildClarySage]

15. This sounds a lot like my son saying "Mom, I was just about to do

my homework!" I don't buy it from him, either.

[rodeodance]

18. Read post # 13 and below--Roberts is working with Cheney in the writing

of the report (so it seems).


(October 27, 2005 -- 04:09 PM EDT // link)

Murray Waas in National Journal: "Vice President Cheney and his chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, overruling advice from some White House political staffers and lawyers, decided to withhold crucial documents from the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2004 when the panel was investigating the use of pre-war intelligence that erroneously concluded Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, according to Bush administration and congressional sources."

We'll have more on this shortly. But there's more to be said about why this is coming out now, especially since the chairman of the committee, Sen. Roberts (R-KS) was doing his best already to cover for the vice-president.
-- Josh Marshall

[rodeodance]

20. But Cheney is part of the WH being investigated--so why is Cheney

in on writing the final report?--obviously Roberts is in cahots with the WH to whitewash Phase II.

[rodeodance]

23. I am very concerned about this article by Rosen--saying that Cheney

and Roberts are working together on the final language of Phase II.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

35. Cheney isn't really WH. Note article says Cheney did it over WH objections

[hang a left]

41. Prospect article says different.

snip>

But that was then. Today, committee Republicans view their mission as being not oversight but cover-up. Indeed, one source told the Prospect that Roberts has worked closely behind the scenes with Vice President Dick Cheney’s office in crafting the language defining and limiting the investigation’s terms -- even though the committee is supposed to be investigating and providing oversight of the administration’s use of Iraq intelligence. Yet the committee’s leading Democrat, Rockefeller, hobbled by criticism from within the committee -- and according to one account, “a wimp … not confident of his own judgments” -- has felt constrained from pushing the majority more aggressively to comply with its pr

snip>

[Bernardo de La Paz]

43. Roberts is not the WH. Cheney is a former Congressman

Roberts is not the White House. Cheney is a former Congressman and knows how to work the Hill. Your quoted paragraph does nothing to refute the thesis that Cheney is running a parallel operation to the White House, the cabal that Wilkerson talked about last week.

[rodeodance]

24. Rick Santorumm is talking now on Imus

[rodeodance]

25. Rick saying the WH used the best intel at the time but Imus is giving

him a rough time.

[rodeodance]

26. Did Rich say Joe Wilson was lying?

[rodeodance]

27. Santoum is having a fit!! --really sliming the Dems.

[rodeodance]

28. saying Chalibi was one of the best sources of information prior to the war

[rodeodance]

30. Santorum now praising Chalabi again--

[rodeodance]

34. Santy man saying that if Scooter told a lie to the Grand jury he will have

to pay the consequences.

[carolinalady]

29. It doesn't matter what he says. Harry Reid laid it out

chronologically in his most eloquent statement on the floor. He had all the written and verbal requests, and all of the RW media sound bites and their written requests or lack thereof. Desperate attempt.

[rodeodance]

32. I know--just enjoy it--he is on a roll with his spin!

[Vinca]

31. Uh huh. That's when my next diet starts. Next week. nt

[rodeodance]

33. What does everyone think obout the Rosen post (# 13 above)?

[Lerkfish]

38. about cheney himself writing the report? not surprised at all.

It was clear to me from the beginning the whole thing was a sham. You can't have the majority party commit a crime, and then fairly investigate itself, not when the majority party is republicraps.

[Lerkfish]

36. this is good. I HOPE they rush through the whitewash, so its obviously

a sham and gives more credence for establishing an INDEPENDENT investigation.

It will be proof that republicans cannot be trusted to police themselves (of course, WE know that, but I mean proof to everyone else)

[maddezmom]

37. didn't see it, but Roberts is full of shit

and Imus is an ass for repeating it.

[xultar]

40. III Fuckin BET they were about to finish. YEAH right mutherfucker.