I'm not entirely sure why I posted this, but here it is.

[FVZA_Colonel]

I was doing a bit of research for a novel I'm starting, and came across this (in case you were wondering, I was researching the history of the term "Fifth Column"), courtesy of PeakTalk (link here- http://www.peaktalk.com/):


Friday, October 28, 2005
PLAME PERSPECTIVE
Some refreshing perspective about the Plame affair.

Roger Simon:


It's obvious too that the Plame Affair is not at all about some minor not-so-covert CIA official, but about Iraq. It is a replaying of the war on other turf.
Mark Steyn:

Well, I would hope that there are no indictments, because I don't see that there is anything significant about the Valerie Plame leak that makes this leak so much more important than all the other leaks that have come out...the CIA has been leaking against this president for years, for example. I don't understand why leaking the name of Valerie Plame, which isn't a crime, should be the most important leak ever to come out. The real issue here is that Joe Wilson should never have been sent to Niger on that mission in the first place. The president was right on this. British intelligence, French intelligence, and even a former prime minister of Niger agree that Saddam Hussein was trying to acquire uranium from Niger. Why have we got into a huge criminal investigation, defending some obscure matter relating to the spouse of a buffoon, and an unqualified fraud who basically lied about everything he discovered in Niger?


Posted at 09:22 AM by Pieter Dorsman | Permalink | American Politics | TrackBack (0)



I know this has been debated many times before, but it amazes me that there are people still continuing with these lines (she was a minor, non-covert operative, Wilson's an idiot and Saddam was trying to get Uranium, etc.)

[Bozita]

1. It's ALL about lies ... and over 2000 caskets attest to the significance

[mestup]

2. What caskets? I haven't seen any caskets.

:sarcasm:

Over 2,000 deaths totally ignored by the Corporate Media.
:cry:

[Carolab]

3. They listen to Rush, read Powerline and watch Fox.

So they are thoroughly misinformed/brainwashed.

[fooj]

5. It's absolutely incredible, isn't it?

It's starting to raise this to a whole new level...

Peace.

[autorank]

4. There's the other HUGE crime...against free elections.

Sure, there is a history of fraud in elections going way back, but now we have a unique situation.

Votes are collected and tabulated by three major firms: Diebold, ESS and Sequoia. Diebold and ESS (under former & current ownership) have a history of supporting right wing and Neocon Republicans. Sequoia used to be owned by De La Rue, a British firm with right wing ties in England. It is now owned by a Venezuelan form with a CEO who was denied a VISA to visit the USA recently. The Venezuelan firm is not sympathetic to Chavez, you can count on that.

When we vote on machines (touch screen or optiscan) our votes are recorded by computer memory.

They are then sent from the voting machines to tabulation centers, also run by the three voting machine companies (primarily Diebold for the tabulation market).

The results of the tabulation are the results of the electing.

From entry into the computerized voting machine to tabulation, the votes disappear...elections officials cannot see the workings of the machines or check for errors or malicious code because they've been sold a bill of goods by the three vendors -- the programing and source code is "proprietary"...a "trade secret." Therefore, there is no ability to inspect the actual recording and tabulation of votes.

Pretty pathetic isn't it. Talk about an international Fifth Column...Stalin said, it's not who votes that's important, it's who counts the votes.

That is the great enabler of Neocon emergence and dominance, that plus a bought-and-sold media and passive public.

In 2000, 50,000 black Floridians were removed from the voting rolls, purged, because of a "mistaken" assumption that they were felons. If only 1/2 of these folks had voted, Bush wouldn't exist as President today.

In 2004, they got much better. The proof was there through exit polls (the only true vote counting with 100% paper trail on election day). We know what happened but nobody cares...and it will happen again.

America has outsourced it's elections to three vendors who are strongly Republican, openly so. It's now outsourced about 1/3 of the voting machine market to Venezuela.

Wonder why idiocy like the Plame outing happens?

[WatchWhatISay]

6. Same old talking points

But never any facts to back them up.

Just like "She had outed herself - all the neighbors knew". Well, not according to the two neighbors interviewed on TV the other day. Both had been interviewed for this investigation recently. One was just an acquaintance. But the other was pretty close, had social interactions, thier kids were friends, and they never knew a thing until Novaks story came out.

[cornermouse]

7. A good antidote to this is last night's 60 Minutes interveiw.

If you didn't see it, you should. It detailed the effect and harm done to this nation that Libby, Novak, and whoever put Libby up to doing it.

Interview transcript url below.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/28/60minutes/main994753.shtml