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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:44 PM
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Remember when Bush said "we'll probably never know who ...."
Edited on Sat Oct-29-05 06:45 PM by Neil Lisst
Do you remember the press conference about two years ago? Bush was asked pointedly about the Plame leak, and he offered gratuitously the statement "we'll probably never know who leaked it. You know how it is with leaks in Washington."

At the time he made it, I recall thinking that it meant he knew then who leaked, and he was predicting it would never be known because he thought it would never be known.

http://www.webcomicsnation.com/neillisst
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:47 PM
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1. Bush also joked about the journalists being good at keeping ...
... at keeping secrets. He, Rove and Libby all expected the journalists to assert successfully their privilege, and that would be the stopper to finding out what really happened.

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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:51 PM
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3. Operation Mockingbird and illegal CIA domestic operations
would be something that Bush et al could come to rely on the media to keep secret. After all, many are/were making their livings off of it.

Operation Mockingbird
www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmockingbird.htm

and Carl Bernstein's The CIA and The Media, Rolling Stone Oct. 1977, seriously needs updating !

Regarding illegal domestic operations by the CIA:

"This activity led the CIA to establish proprietary companies, fronts, and covers for its domestic operations. So widespread did they become that President Johnson allowed the then CIA Director, John McCone, to create in 1964 a new super-secret branch called the Domestic Operations Division (DOD), the very title of which mocked the explicit intent of Congress to prohibit CIA operations inside the U.S. (2) This disdain for Congress permeated the upper echelons of the CIA. Congress could not hinder or regulate something it did not know about, and neither the President nor the Director of the CIA was about to tell them. Neither was J. Edgar Hoover, even though he was generally aware that the CIA was moving in on what was supposed to be exclusive FBI turf. (3)

References
2. Morton H. Halperin, et al., eds., The Lawless State (New York: Penguin, 1976), p. 138.
3. Ibid. "

from
Domestic Surveillance:
The History of Operation CHAOS
by Verne Lyon
from Covert Action Information Bulletin, Summer 1990
(Verne Lyon is a former CIA undercover operative
who is now a director of the Des Moines Hispanic Ministry)

http://www.serendipity.li/cia/lyon.html

Now, when Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald declines to investigate Judy Miller and the rest of Operation Mockingbird, you will know WHY he is doing what he isn't doing. Did I say that right ?
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:51 PM
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5. Because .... he thought this would be put to bed by the Justice Dept.
and that the Justice Dept. would never go to court to compel testimony by the reporters.

Oo, there's somethin' happenin' here.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:58 PM
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7. You don't throw 2000 plus lives away in Lower Shitholeia and not expect
Edited on Sat Oct-29-05 06:59 PM by EVDebs
a real investigation, now, do you ? Families like Cindy Sheehan's deserve to know the answer to what the 'noble cause' was.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:27 PM
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12. It's lookin' like the "noble cause" was hiding knowledge of the forgeries.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:49 PM
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2. Exactamundo!!!
I read a lot of true crime books (my pet vice), and invariably, when someone is presumed murdered and the body isn't found, when the police start searching a particular area, the guilty party JUST CAN'T HELP blurting out, "They'll never find her there."

Part of Bushie's problem (and he has MANY) is that he always assumes that people like Fitzgerald are as stupid as his own lackeys. He also (wrongly) assumed that no one would ever really look at the person (or people) he KNEW to be guilty!!!

For once, the BushBaby's stupidity pays off!
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:55 PM
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6. D'Oh, the sub-title of the book Spider's Web gave it all away !
Spider's Web: The Secret History of How the White House Illegally Armed Iraq

www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/17/1615235

Uh, like if Saddam ever did get WMDs, you know who sold them or the precursors to him, now, don't you ? And you might want that from becoming too much of a not-so-open secret.

Even if that meant going to war under false pretenses. In Bushworld no one is ever held fully accountable. Why, even the CIA has until 2034 to release all of the JFK murder files. But not until then, that would spoil the surprise.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:05 PM
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9. He had Asscroft in place though...they thought they were safe.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:51 PM
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4. Didn't he say that prior to Fitzgerald being handed the case?
They made alot of very broad, very bold denials when they thought the whole thing would be whitewashed.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:11 PM
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10. Yup.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:03 PM
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8. Bush clearly thought the secret was safe with journalists!
Wrong!!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:19 PM
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11. They ALL knew full well who leaked, and they ALL knew that the
name of the game from that point on was Lie, Dissemble, Obfuscate, and Cover Up.

Bush knew there was going to be a massive coverup, because he ordered it.
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