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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:13 PM
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Did the grand jurors believe Rove would be indicted?
We're hearing that Fitzgerald decided at the last minute not to indict Rove (after all).

Were the departing grand jurors under the impression that Rove was to be indicted?

I wonder what they are thinking now.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:17 PM
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1. We'll never know. We also don't know if there WERE last minute
decisions/negotiations. Notice, yesterday, when a reporter asked Fitz if he had asked for any indictments that were't granted, he declined to answer.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:30 PM
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5. Why are several media outlets saying there WERE
last minute decisions?

I'm not talking about Fitzgerald requesting indictments and the grand jurors failing to grant them, quite the opposite in fact.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:52 PM
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9. The media had worked up Rove indictments from their own imaginations
So they have to now pretend that there really were indictments, but at the last minute they disappeared. That way they don't have to admit that they really had or have no idea what Fitzgerald was working on, and that they were just writing down whatever someone claiming to be a source told them to write.

The same is true now. They have no idea whether Fitzgerald is still working on indicting Rove, and for what, or who else might be in trouble. They are just writing to fill columns and air time, not to report anything they actually know.

Just my theory. Could be wrong.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:21 PM
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2. from my understanding
the prosecutor states the case for charges and it is the grand jury that decides whether or not to indict.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:27 PM
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4. Certainly, it is possible that the grand jury was moving towards an
indictment but Fitzgerald failed to offer them that opportunity. In fact, it is just that scenario that has been floated by several corporate outlets in the past 24 hours. Apparently, Rove offered last minute info and an indictment was averted. I'm not saying this is true, but why float it if not?
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clmbohdem Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:24 PM
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3. I wonder if Rove's indictments may still be sealed
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:41 PM
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8. that's what I think too -- and we are discussing it here
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:33 PM
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6. IMHO, this is about the conspiracy case.
Edited on Sat Oct-29-05 01:34 PM by longship
Am I the only one wondering about why there's no conspiracy charges? I can see how it would be difficult to prove a conspiracy of one, since Libby was the only one indicted.

But what if Rove and others are also to be charged, and those charges will include conspiracy charges. Maybe Fitz does not yet have the conspiracy case ready. In that case, with a GJ expiring, Fitz may have been forced to move on part of the case at this time, leaving the rest of it for another grand jury.

Maybe the bulk of the case against Rove is conspiracy. But Fitz wants to scoop up more than just Rove/Libby. He holds back all the conspiracy charges so that he can get to the bottom of what happened.

IMHO, Fitz might not be comfortable making charges on the intelligence laws. This is about the conspiracy and the cover-up. That should be enough. It could still go all the way to the top. But I would guess that he's got only Crashcart, KKKarl, Scooter, and some staffers. Isn't that enough?
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:36 PM
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7. Without additional charges, it will seem far too tidy for my liking.
I truly hope all is as it seems to DUers.
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