MUST READ: There were other CIA Outings!

[Don1]

Most likely there were other CIA outings than just Valerie Plame. Here is why: the news media friendly to Bush published and started talking about Plame's identity and then revealed something else unintentionally outing others. They revealed her employer which was actually a CIA front company. The name of the company as a result was plastered all over the Internet: Brewster Jennings & Associates. This is a clear case of multiple counts of treason, one for each outed CIA agent, especially those who were currently on duty in foreign lands who were suddenly outed and in a potentially hostile environment. It is a clear case of gross negligence.

Apparently, though, the Democrats have not realized this in their indictments. Someone with some connections want to contact Patrick Fitzgerald?

[Maddy McCall]

1. I'm sure that Fitzgerald is aware that Brewster Jennings was outed.

And the indictments are not "the Democrats'" but are the work of a non-partisan Special Investigator.

[Don1]

2. Really?

So why is no one talking about it?

[Catherine Vincent]

3. It's one of those items that Fitzgerald said he couldn't talk about.

Brewster Jennings

[Don1]

11. Really?

I didn't hear anything like that. Do you have a quote or something?

[Catherine Vincent]

14. I heard him say something like that but he didn't mention BJ.

[Luminous Animal]

16. Heard him say something like what? (n/t)

[Catherine Vincent]

17. That he couldn't comment on certain persons while the investigation

is still going on. He didn't say it in those words. I'd have to check the transcripts. But not tonight, I'm going by what I heard earlier today. I'm guess BJ was included in that.

[Luminous Animal]

15. Interesting

You post claiming that Fitzgerald's indictment is a "Democrat" indictment and then you try to lead us to conclude that he missed the Brewster Jennings connection.

Perhaps Brewster Jennings is a cover for a cover and you'te trying to lead us into a trap.

[No Exit]

19. Instead of asking stupid questions, go read the press conference.

[No Exit]

20. Lots of people are talking about it. You must have

republicanitis. It's a disease which causes you to be deaf to any negative news for the * administration. I think Rush Limbaugh's got it...

[The_Casual_Observer]

4. It probably all comes down to a budget problem

He probably only had so much money and time to do this investigation. Sad but probably true.

[Don1]

5. The fact that they potentially outed their own party

and important people unintentionally should resonate across the political spectrum and really nail them to the wall. It is probably the most powerful aspect of the indictments. It certainly would be sad if this could not be included.

[Maddy McCall]

7. Actually, he has no time limit...and I don't think his funds are...

limited, either.

Tonight, on one talking-heads show, the point was made that Starr spent MILLIONS of dollars to catch Clinton in a lie about a blow job, but Patrick Fitzgerald has only spent $700,000 to trace down people who may have committed treason/sedition.

[shraby]

9. His budget is assured. Comey saw to that.

Fitz gets what he needs.

[cynatnite]

6. Here's a little info from MSNBC

snip:
A small Boston company listed as her employer suddenly was shown to be a bogus CIA front, and her alma mater in Belgium discovered it was a favored haunt of an American spy. At Langley, officials in the clandestine service quickly began drawing up a list of contacts and friends, cultivated over more than a decade, to triage any immediate damage

snip:
Intelligence officials said they would never reveal the true extent of her contacts to protect the agency and its work.

"You'll never get a straight answer about how valuable she was or how valuable her sources were," said one intelligence official who would speak only anonymously.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9856806

on edit: I don't think there will be criminal charges on these. Valerie Plame can no longer work as an operative, but those affected by her outing still might be able to. Hard to say since the CIA is keeping quiet about it. Must still be pretty sensitive stuff.

[Luminous Animal]

8. Really now!

The Democrats have not realized this in their indictments????? Are you trying to assert that this grand jury and Fitzgerald's investigation is a Democratic pursuit?

[Don1]

10. Yes.

Most Republicans are corrupt selfish liars who would never admit that this is a serious case. I mean, you don't see a huge forum on Freeperville devoted to coverage of the indictments do you? Instead, you see a bunch of people lying their pants off. Deny. Deny. Deny.

[Luminous Animal]

13. Point of information.

This is not a "democrat" case. This is a criminal case and the Democrats have ZERO influence or involvement with the indictments.

[fooj]

18. FYI...That joke referred to as President APPOINTED Fitz...

The Dems had nothing to do with this...even if they wanted to the Repukes perpetually stonewall...

You see, it doesn't really matter much how many Repukes are liars. It's all about THE RULE OF LAW!

Peace.

[gardenista]

12. "The Democrats"? Are you sure about that phrasing?

Anyhow, of course the leak had massive ramifications, which we will never be told.

[July]

21. "the Democrats have not realized this in their indictments"

Sorry, no sale.

[mmonk]

22. You can't reveal publicly

how much damage for national security reasons. Fitz knows or has an idea.

[Don1]

23. Okay, I'm done.

Everyone here is extremely defensive over this. Here is what I said: "the Democrats have not realized this in their indictments." I did not say that all the judges were Democrats. That's crazy. But clearly, the pressure to get the job done is coming from our side of the aisle, including Conyers who has been very involved in it. Metaphorically, we as a party own the indictments and have given them to the whole public through pressure and a lot of hard work. Why be so crazy literal over this? This is not a party given to literal interpretations. That's the other party. The Democrats own this issue and due credit should be given to the Democrats for hard work once there are legal consequences for BushCo.

Like I said, though, I am done. You guys are way to excited and have now started accusing me of being a freeper. That's not only against the rules, but also totally devalues all of the good points that I brought to the table with this thread. Thanks for ruining it and I am not responding in this thread any longer.

[Individualist]

25. You're pathetically uninformed

[crispini]

26. That's not any better.

You are still pretty much saying that Patrick Fitzgerald is a partisan, and suceptible to pressure from our side of the aisle. That is NOT ok. This is a judicial, non-partisan investigation. Democrats do not get ANY "credit for hard work." You completely fail to understand the nature of how a special prosecutor SHOULD function (and how Fitz apparently IS functioning): First, to do justice.

[Straight Shooter]

27. No one called you a fweeper.

Someone mentioned you had "republicanitis."

This is an American issue. I know a few Repubs who are plenty excited and angry about the Valerie Plame issue.

Also, Fitzgerald is neither Dem nor Repub. That is an established fact. As he told the press, I'll tell you, "Take a deep breath, and let the investigation continue."

[KerryOn]

24. And the damage goes much beyond that...

How many ongoing investigations did this destroy, and how does this affect our national security?

The lives of any agents working for the governments of our allies that were ever associated with or currently working with Valerie or other agents in Valerie's front company were also put in jeopardy.

All the agents currently working in deep under cover must be thinking twice about weather they still want to be a CIA operative. At any time the evil men in the WH could blow their cover, if they don’t return the information that supports the administrations plans and policies.

Our allies and other foreign governments will no longer trust us, and many may not be willing to share critical information with us regarding our national security our theirs.

The way I see it the CIA is now in disarray, at a time when it is critical to national security to have the best possible intelligence to protect us from terrorism.

[Monkey see Monkey Do]

28. People work for CIA front companies

without having the faintest idea that they are doing so. In fact it would be foolish to have a company comprised solely of spooks because one exposure topples the lot. (Although some of the CIA airlines operated somewhat in this way). -- That said, if I was a Brewster-Jennings employee in Saudi or similar I'd be pretty scared.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

29. I have connections to Patrick Fitgerald, and I just contacted him as you..

..suggest.

His response: "I have no comment on that.