If you're depressed, disappointed, or dreary: you're fucking CRAZY!

[goodboy]

THIS WAS A HUGE VICTORY IN THE FIRST BATTLE IN THE WAR ON CORRUPTION!

These Fascist Theocratic Evildoers know they aren't safe anywhere.

The greatest way honor our fallen heroes, and the innocents sacrificed on the altar of GREED, LIES, CORRUPTION, and unspeakable EVIL by accepting nothing less than COMPLETE AND TOTAL VICTORY!

WE WILL STAY THE COURSE! IT WILL BE "HARD WORK" BUT WE WILL PREVAIL!



Nobody wants every single one of these goddamn criminals to be charged, tried, convicted and imprisoned forever more than me.

I admit I'm a little disappointed that more of these criminals weren't formally indicted today, but when I thought about it, I began to see that what happened today is FAR FUCKING WORSE than all of them being charged at once.

See, if all that happened was libby's indictment and the conclusion of the investigation, the Bushies would isolate Libby, claim to have cut out the problem and move on with their "hard work" of destroying our country, and the world at large.

But that didn't happen.

Sure Libby was charged... But a new Grand Jury has been empaneled. The investigation continues. A dark cloud of fear, suspicion, and uncertainty OVERSHADOWS the Bushies...

Their agenda - fucked
Their image - fucked
Their congressional majority? Soon to be fucked at the polls in 06

And all that is notwithstanding the fact that as the investigation moves foreword MANY MORE INDICTMENTS WILL FOLLOW!

REMEMBER: TARGET LETTERS! LETTER(S) PLURAL! MORE THAN ONE! went out.


If they got Libby...they got them all. They all lied...

I trust Fitzgerald COMPLETELY to furrow out these rats and crush their heads with his heavy boot of truth and justice.

Cheer up my friends! We get to see these bastards squirm, and delight in the terror they must feel knowing that Fitz is coming for them soon...and they have nowhere to hide!

[meganmonkey]

1. Great rant, Goodboy!!!

I can always count on you for a good rant. You are spot on!!!

They're FUCKED!!!

:woohoo:

[goodboy]

6. proper fucked! Thanks Megan! (420 blaze time!)

[blm]

40. I'll buy you a gallon of gas to add to that fire, goodboy.

You rocked it - you earned it.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. The Watergate perps didn't all go down at once, either.

A few here, a few there, until it finally got to Nixon himsellf. And we all know how that turned out.

[Mythsaje]

3. We can't miss the fact

that the Vice President's Chief Lackey, his errand boy, his general dog-robber HAS BEEN INDICTED for being a lying scumbag...and, yes, that's what those charges amount to.

It ain't done. He's looking at up to 30 years in prison. Sure, the President could pardon him if convicted, but I double-dare him to do so. That would be, in fact, telling the American People that this administration, and, in extension, the Republicans, think they're above the law. It would be a misstep that could simply hand the country to the Dems in '06.

[goodboy]

23. and furthermore, everyone under investigation did the same thing as libby

If Fitz's gonna charge Libby,he'll get the rest of them too!

[npincus]

4. a "new grand jury empaneled"?

you sure about that? I haven't heard that mentioned anywhere. It would be the best of all worlds, of course.

[Bouncy Ball]

7. Yes, there were links all over about it today and I heard it mentioned

on TV more than once. A new grand jury has been empaneled.

[FVZA_Colonel]

9. I saw a post in a different thread on this website

make the claim that it was being empaneled only to tie up loose ends. What's your opinion on that subject?

[Bouncy Ball]

12. No idea about that, sorry.

Although I've never heard of empaneling a brand new grand jury just to tie up loose ends.

[lancdem]

17. I'm watching Fitz's press conference now

He said an existing grand jury will be used for anything else.

[tavalon]

52. You really think Fitz is going to start playing it fast and loose?

He threw us a bone with Libby. I think he hopes we will stop scrutinizing every move he makes. It's hard to run a leak proof grand jury when his every movement is being breathlessly documented,..........by everybody!

He says the case is almost concluded. That could mean that he already intends to indict many others (in other words, he already knows who, what and why). Actually, these indictments also tell the Bush administration that he's playing hardball and it will probably encourage those who are less loyal to talk in return for immunity.

I'm not in the least discouraged by what I heard today. I do think it's time to focus our energies elsewhere for a while. This won't go fast.

[goodboy]

57. What's your source for that into? Because that is NOT what Fitzgerald

said.




ut I'll tell you this: Very rarely do you bring a charge in a case that's going to be tried and would you ever end a grand jury investigation.

2. I can tell you, the substantial bulk of the work in this investigation is concluded.

3. This grand jury's term has expired by statute; it could not be extended. But it's in ordinary course to keep a grand jury open to consider other matters, and that's what we will be doing."

4. I will not end the investigation until I can look anyone in the eye and tell them that we have carried out our responsibility sufficiently to be sure that we've done what we could to make intelligent decisions about when to end the investigation. We hope to do that as soon as possible. I just hope that people will take a deep breath and just allow us to continue to do what we have to do.

QUESTION: Can you give us any sense of how you think you might and how long it might take you now to determine if there was this underlying crime that occurred dealing with alleged unauthorized disclosure?

Fitzgrerald: I can't and I wouldn't. And if I predicted two years ago when it started when it would be done, I would have been done a year ago.

FITZGERALD: So all I can tell you is as soon as we can get it done, we will.


AND NOW, THE BIG ONE!!!

Fitzgerald: And I'll probably just say -- I'll repeat it so I don't misstep and give you anything more than I should.


In these comments, he says repeatedly that this will continue. period. This is the guy who indicted Bin Laden, a member of the Gambina Crime family. The Al-Qaeda terroists who bombed the WTC in 1993 and the terrorists who blew up Lockerbie Scotland.


This is just the tip of the iceburg.

Pat is just getting warmed up.ut I'll tell you this: Very rarely do you bring a charge in a case that's going to be tried and would you ever end a grand jury investigation.

2. I can tell you, the substantial bulk of the work in this investigation is concluded.

3. This grand jury's term has expired by statute; it could not be extended. But it's in ordinary course to keep a grand jury open to consider other matters, and that's what we will be doing."

4. I will not end the investigation until I can look anyone in the eye and tell them that we have carried out our responsibility sufficiently to be sure that we've done what we could to make intelligent decisions about when to end the investigation. We hope to do that as soon as possible. I just hope that people will take a deep breath and just allow us to continue to do what we have to do.

QUESTION: Can you give us any sense of how you think you might and how long it might take you now to determine if there was this underlying crime that occurred dealing with alleged unauthorized disclosure?

Fitzgrerald: I can't and I wouldn't. And if I predicted two years ago when it started when it would be done, I would have been done a year ago.

FITZGERALD: So all I can tell you is as soon as we can get it done, we will.


AND NOW, THE BIG ONE!!!

Fitzgerald: And I'll probably just say -- I'll repeat it so I don't misstep and give you anything more than I should.


In these comments, he says repeatedly that this will continue. period. This is the guy who indicted Bin Laden, a member of the Gambina Crime family. The Al-Qaeda terroists who bombed the WTC in 1993 and the terrorists who blew up Lockerbie Scotland.


This is just the tip of the iceburg.

Pat is just getting warmed up.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

64. Right. If you want to believe that, feel free.

[FVZA_Colonel]

67. I am not saying I do.

I was just wondering what other people thought.

[goodboy]

14. Here:

The probe is far from being at an end. According to this reporter's sources, Fitzgerald approached the judge in charge of the case and asked that a new grand jury be empaneled. The old grand jury, which has been sitting for two years, will expire on October 28.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/26/133953/91

http://www.dailykos.com/

[Pepper32]

26. Yes.

FITZGERALD: Let me answer the two questions you asked in one.

OK, is the investigation finished? It's not over, but I'll tell you this: Very rarely do you bring a charge in a case that's going to be tried and would you ever end a grand jury investigation.

I can tell you, the substantial bulk of the work in this investigation is concluded.

This grand jury's term has expired by statute; it could not be extended. But it's in ordinary course to keep a grand jury open to consider other matters, and that's what we will be doing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/28/politics/28text-fitz.html?pagewanted=all

[npincus]

28. thank ye

[longship]

48. Do you mean other than Fitz's statement today?

Fitz clearly and unambiguously said in his statement and press conference today that the special prosecutor could use any grand jury which was empaneled. Maybe you missed that point because facts were flying fast and furious.

But that was made quite clear if you picked up on it.

[ElectroPrincess]

5. Thanks for the perspective :-)

[mzmolly]

8. Or your a FREAKING TROLL!

One or the other.

[goodboy]

32. Even the trolls must know that this is the death-knell for their kind (nt)

[Shadder]

10. Missing a vital point

I seem to recall * running on the promise of restoring honor and dignity to the White House and the office of the President. And what has he accomplished in this area? Can anyone name one single thing that would qualify here?

[goodboy]

30. YES! I have a feeling that this investigation will continue through '06

then...

:nuke:

goodbye REPUKE FUCKS!

[converted_democrat]

11. Thank you so much for posting this.....

I have been telling people all day to keep their chins up, that what is happening is a good thing. I just got tired of writing it over, and over, and over again. I finally just gave up, because none of them would listen. They would just jump thread to thread spreading their pessimism to anyone that would listen.

[okieinpain]

13. yes, originally I didn't think much would come of this, but to the

chief of staff of the vp is something big. this is going to be one of those drip, drip, drip,......... events. this is going to be beautiful.

[DancingBear]

15. Very well ranted, mr. g

Check here for similar musings:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5211291

Oh, and check your inbox.

[goodboy]

54. Thank you!

[Pepper32]

16. Nominated to the greatest page!

They truly are fucked, the look on Bush's face during his 30 second speech proves it. :D

Thanks for your post goodboy.

[Caretha]

56. I watched that "30 sec"

Bush spot, and as little Georgie Porgie ran away, I got the distinct impression he wanted to flip the finger to the press. :rofl:

[Tuesday_Morning]

18. Beautiful rant! thank you n/t

[OKNancy]

19. I'm happy and one reason is because

I didn't believe the hype I read on some sites that remain unnamed.

I never had high expectations, so I wasn't disappointed at all.

[goodboy]

33. Those sites are always wrong about everything. We got DeLay and Frist too

the Abramoff and Noe scandals,

shit...meet fan!

[Pithy Cherub]

20. Libby's indictment was a self-inflicted knockout punch.

Every indictment will now be headline news and the speculation punditry is auditioning as we speak. Glorious rant and so true!

I have been delighted all day! :bounce:

[goodboy]

31. AND IT PARALYZES THEIR AGENDA! HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA

[oxbow]

21. It all depends on the terms of Libby's appeal

If he has to cooperate completely and take a lie detector test (which happens often) then Fitzgerald has the whole sick crew by the balls. If Libby just has to cooperate in the investigation, then we'll see the same thing, though perhaps on a lesser level. If the terms of his appeal are that he doesn't have to cooperate in the investigation but only plead guilty to the charges, then it gets really hard to nail em. It all depends on what kind of deal Fitz is willing to cut him.

[jillan]

22. Thank you for posting this.

I tried to post something similar earlier.

No - we didn't get to throw out the whole administration today,
but this is huge.
Serious charges against one of the top WH insiders.

And there's that trail....

[goodboy]

34. and DeLay, Frist, Abramoff, Noe, Ney, Iraq, Economy, Gas prices,

[Blue-Jay]

24. word.

[Der Blaue Engel]

25. Truly

I haven't been this hopeful in months. Finally, some justice has occurred, and we have someone in charge who is not only not partisan, but a damn good prosecutor. It's like a miracle, with all the blows we've gotten from these monsters to finally have a glimmer of justice and hope.

:toast:

[madrchsod]

27. yup! my team won the world series,

my foot operation went off without any problems,i`ve got six or more weeks off from work,and the bush whitehouse is burnt toast. other than my dog died and my wifes cat being run over it`s been a pretty good month

[goodboy]

36. You're foot is healing...the GOP needs the jaws of life to get Fitz' foot

out of their asshole!

Your dog and cat are in pet heaven smiling, because they know that the rest of those lying GOP fucks are goin' down too!

[goodboy]

29. This is the 'push' which sets off a domino effect, accelerating

the spectacular demise of the GOP and the Bush Admin, while at the same time paralyzing their agenda.

[Ksec]

35. Libby is going to save his own ass

Im bettin' he makes a deal for a less severe sentence. When someone is facing YEARS in prison its pretty standard for them to roll over on each other. Libby will give evidence on Rove and maybe Cheney and Bush. IMO thats why Rove wasnt charged today. Fitz is looking for more evidence.

[goodboy]

37. I hope so. (nt)

[Carolab]

38. Just look at him. Does this guy look like he would go to jail?

Especially when little Lord Fatty is making deals to save his own skin?

I don't THINK so.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

39. Don't you mean HUGH!!! - I'm simply giddy. This has been a good day!

[BelgianMadCow]

41. recommended

for simplicity and truthfulness of message.

[obsqueesha]

42. I'm so tired...

...of having to pump up and fluff out the little bits we seem to have. I mean we have to try and make the most of what turns out to be so very little. The Gannon thing, the stolen elections--everything else that's happened--it never seems to really amount to anything.

I want this to be something BIG!

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

43. "...we have to...

...try and make the most of what turns out to be so very little."

That's the secret of life. The more sincere one's effort at always trying to make the most of whatever's dealt, the better one become at it. It's an acquired skill, a mindset really, and to master this skill, this mindset, is to master life itself. You said a mouthful, Obsqueesha, and I thank you for the much needed reminder.

[goodboy]

46. IT IS SOMETHING BIG...You're not trying to see it...

You're trying to bring us down...

It won't work.

[Name removed]

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[Media_Lies_Daily]

62. And I'm tired of seeing posts from Johnny-Come-Latelies who....

...appear capable of only seeing the dark side of positive events.

Go back and read about Watergate, and tell me how people viewed that case in the initial stages.

[Name removed]

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[goodboy]

66. you don't t hink it's significant? you must be deluded, this hasn't

happened for over 100 years!

[Mutley]

44. I'm just tired.

I've barely slept in days. And now that the tension and anxiety of waiting are gone, my body is shutting down. I think it's time for me to go to bed.

But still -- :woohoo: :party: << I'll do more of that tomorrow.

[goodboy]

47. I'll party a lil while longer for you! Rest well, it'll be 'hard work'

helping to bring these fucks to justice.

but we will.

[jazzjunkysue]

45. All true. We'll have the house back in 06. That's the result.

I really don't give a rat's ass if any of these users sits in a prison cell. I just want my country back.

[LibertyorDeath]

49. I'm with you.... Fuck em like they never been fucked before!

[giant_robot]

50. How soon will Libby go on trial?

I believe that will be the real shit-storm. Thirty years vs. rolling over on Cheney? I'm betting he'll roll over.

[Borgnine]

51. Too many people here want instant gratification.

They were expecting Libby, Rove, and hell, Cheney of all people to get indicted today. They whipped themselves into a lather that this was the day our problems would be going away.

[Pachamama]

53. I'm not depressed! One PNAC'r down, atleast a dozen more to go!

It was a great day! I'm looking forward to the future....Fitz is going to make the Neo-con Bush/Cheney Cabal squirm and agonize and wonder who is next or what Fitz is going to be doing....Maybe they will all turn on eachother.... :evilgrin:

[goodboy]

55. YES! (nt)

[indie_voter]

58. I couldn't agree more!!

People seem to be stressing over the comment he made:

"I can tell you, the substantial bulk of the work in this investigation is concluded."

This reads to me he KNOWS who did what, he has the story, now he needs to flip people. Libby is just one visible piece in the puzzle.

The indictment was very very interesting to read, so many other people were a part of this. What is the level of their cooperation?

This isn't over, and Fitzgerald made that clear at his press conference.

[jhain]

60. You are a Good Boy!

one of my faves from yesterday:

Podesta said,

"When Clinton said, 'I'm going back to do my work,' people cheered," Podesta said. "When Bush says, 'I'm going to do the job I've been doing,' people say, 'Oh, no.' "

[struggle4progress]

61. All I got was a scooter for Fitzmas when I really wanted a rover. eom

[Media_Lies_Daily]

63. Poor baby. I guess empaneling another Grand Jury has escaped...

...your broken-hearted notice.

[Loge23]

65. That's all the $ papa had , for now...

but don't fret, papa Fitz is the real deal. He'll make good on all of our wishlists!

[struggle4progress]

69. I have to wait til NEXT Fitzmas? eom