How will you react if nothing comes of the indictments?

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

Just wondering.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

1. Frustration

but not suprise. I'm pretty pragmatic. The pendulum swings but rarely stops dead.

[timber84]

7. Grannie always has good words of wisdom

[trotsky]

2. SSDD

Like every other one of the hundred or so scandals this administration has weathered, I would not be too surprised if this one passes without serious consequence too. When the media has a vested interest in making sure your party stays in power, they tend to be hostile toward your critics.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

23. Remember Iran-Contra?

That's OK.

No one else does, either.

[trotsky]

44. Iran-Contra died with a whimper.

The Democrats had their chance to drive a stake into the Bushista wing of the Republican party, but were too giddy about finally winning the White House.

A mistake they'll all too probably make again and again and again.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

55. Given the way these thugs have elided everything,

my biggest fear isn't that there will be no indictments, but that there will be some great collective shrug and the apathy will continue.

I just don't know, trots. I just don't know.

[Carni]

61. Ahhh...but there were no *internets* in the Iran Contra Days

IMO No one could understand what the hell was going on with Iran Contra because we were all at the mercy of three network news stations and our local newspapers back in the day.

We didn't have access to blogs and print media from all over the country.

These sleazeballs don't have that luxury and are unpopular with the public to begin with!

(At least that is what I am telling myself to try to stay optimistic)

[Melsky]

57. Reagan was a popular president

Bush isn't exactly popular right now. I'm hoping that will make a big diference.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

59. That's a good point,

but Reagan had his detractors. No one jumped on the chance to capitalize on what had happened, and, frankly, I think the populace was just too damn stupid to follow the particulars.

Those were, after all, the people who thought the traitor Ollie North was a hero. I guess they still do.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

3. Or,

how will you react if there are no indictments?

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

6. That's pretty much what I'm getting at.

[WiseButAngrySara]

32. "nothing comes of the indictments" means that there are indictments....n/t

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

35. I understand that. I guess I should have said "if 'Traitorgate' or whateve

er you call it doesn't go how we had hoped" and there are several scenarios that apply. Indictments but no convictions, indictments with convictions but also pardons, no indictments at all, etc.

[WiseButAngrySara]

46. We all knew what you meant! That's why we read your post.

:hi: and cheers.

[napi21]

4. It won't happen. Target letters have already been sent.

Libby's atty and what ever other ones wouldn NOT have been issuing statements that their clients should be concerned about legal trouble unless they were sure!

[OldLeftieLawyer]

20. Never misunderestimate

the power of a defense attorney's spin.

We do it all the time, and it means nothing.

No one knows anything.

[emulatorloo]

34. that the endlessly yapping and spinning Luskin has fallen silent

seems like a good sign to me.

But yeah, we know nothing and won't know until the GJ/Fitz speaks.

[Neocondriac]

5. I refuse ....

to get my hopes up. Too many fascists,too little time.

[Greeby]

8. Like this

:argh:

[graywarrior]

9. Political careers will be ruined, regardless.

There's lots of finger pointing and back stabbing going on right now. Things will never go back to the way it was. No one will trust anyone else. Hee hee.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

12. I'm not convinced. I hope you're right.

[ailsagirl]

13. I hope you're right, graywarrior

I'm astounded that the flagrant corruption has gone on
this long. Makes me wonder if we'll ever see the light
at the end of the tunnel.

:(

[Blue_In_AK]

10. I haven't even posted on any of the

happy happy joy joy posts -- I won't believe indictments are real until I see them, and I'm not going to speculate.

[ailsagirl]

11. Deeply disappointed but not surprised.

Those crooks-- THUS FAR-- are made of Teflon.

But that could change. Fingers crossed.

[Melsky]

42. if you scrub teflon enough

it becomes all rough and scratchy, and things stick to it much worse than if you had a regular pan in the first place. I hope that Fitz keeps scrubbing!

[ailsagirl]

56. Good point!! You scrub Teflon enough and you RUIN it!!!

:evilgrin:

[Sperk]

14. intervention a failure....country will have to hit rock bottom before

it manually tosses the neocons out on their asses. If they get away with this...there isn't an election around that they cant fix.

[SheilaT]

15. Quite honestly, it's what I expect

that nothing actually is going to come of the whole investigation. This administration gets away with literal murder, and it's just going to continue.

[terrya]

16. I've always thought that Bush will leave office unscathed.

I've always thought that Bush is the ultimate "Teflon" President.

I won't be suprised if no indictments are issued. I won't be surprised at all.

[dogtag]

17. I finally got out of my post election fetal position in August......

Puleeeeeze, Mr. Fitzgerald, don't make me get back into it. I should add that I was under the bed, not on it.

[Inland]

18. Real scandal isn't what laws are broken, it's what's legal. nt

[Eagle_Eye]

19. The same reaction I had to the Presidential elections in

2000 and 2004
Dismay
Anger
A few well deserved insults directed at bush
I will however not be hitting the booze (I quit)

[WritingIsMyReligion]

21. That's what this smiley is for:

:banghead:

[porphyrian]

22. No danger of that.

But it wouldn't change my behavior at all, just my level of anger.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

25. What do you mean "no danger"?

You're completely convinced?

[porphyrian]

30. Yep, it's going to happen.

Indictments, however, don't mean convictions. The legal process is excruciatingly long and tedius when both sides wield enough power and money.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

33. Ah, got'cha

[johnnie]

24. I don't get my hopes up too high

I am hoping that it all pans out the way I want it to but I haven't really joined in the festivities yet. I have no problem with people who are excited, I have just seen too many shitty things.

[Pepper32]

26. ...

[crispini]

27. I will NOT be reading DU.

I can imagine the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth that will occur here.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

28. I've had that same metaphor in my head.

[AlinPA]

29. I'll say "I told you so". (I've expressed my doubts here a lot) n/t

[mmonk]

31. Wait to see if the people that know the truth

will do anything. For myself, all hope in this country for me will be over. There will be nothing I believe from an American government or the press. I will look to see if any states seek secession. If not, I'll have to buy a backdoor somewhere.

[OzarkDem]

36. Organize a March On Washington DC

And I'd find someone else to organize the rally (OT ANSWER).

[NAO]

37. Exposure without Consequences plays into the hands of the perpetrators

The following statements, written in 2001, elucidate what the effects will be on the American People if 'nothing comes of the indictments'.

"Exposure without action against the perpetrators of the crimes revealed, devolves into a kind of perverse advertisement for the prowess of the cryptocrats, who are seen as having performed fantastic feats of criminal enterprise with a genius that renders them immune from the consequences."

"The entire process as a whole smacks of that familiar occult control device of grotesque mockery of the principle touted, in this case of the notion of exposure leading to punishment and retribution."

****

"The occult Cryptocracy processes the Group Mind of the masses mainly through psychodrama. The alchemical and Rosicrucian command dogmas were literary works. In the course of receiving the establishment's reports and accounts of (the news), a mental virus is implanted in many percipients. The hypodermic needle in this case is nothing more startling than a campfire story, only the campfire is the crackling electrical current of a television and the story is of our extinction."

****

"If the truth of what the cryptocracy has perpetrated is grasped and acted upon, the consequences for the conspirators will be annihilation. But if the people fail to perceive the truth or fail to act on their perception, thus rendering unto the Process a kind of tacit consent born of apathy, amnesia and abulia, the consequence for the conspirators will be a giant-step in the advancement of their system of control, that is to say, ever tighter bonds of enslavement for humanity."

****

quotations are from "Secret Socities and Psychological Warfare" by Michael A. Hoffman II

[ToeBot]

38. I'm not expecting any convictions

The rich and powerful, even the famous, are rarely convicted. It may happen but only if it's expedient to the needs of the even more rich and powerful.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

41. Yeah and it's not like Ollie North's life is ruined.

[conflictgirl]

39. I will be really disappointed

But not at all surprised. Honestly at this point I would be more surprised if something DOES come out of them. :(

[oregonindy]

40. find others who want to storm the bastille with me. :)

[onenote]

43. I'll get all the work done that I've been putting off

reading the "indictments are coming" threads here on DU

onenote

[alcuno]

45. Chavez - Here's how we know. Follow the cable guys.........

Tucker Carlson moved his show to DC beginning last night and Scarborough will be in DC beginning tonight. To the question of indictments, they do not get an answer. But...producers may be asking if they should move their people into position in DC and getting a positive response. THAT'S how they know what is going to happen.

[MrSlayer]

47. As I am expecting the worst already, I won't be disappointed.

These guys always slither out of whatever troubles they have so I wouldn't be shocked to see them walk away from this unscathed. On the other hand I will be pretty happy if they do get their comeuppance.

[ContraBass Black]

48. The same way I did after the election.

Continue in a stupor for several days, then throw it off loudly screaming profanity.

[Bouncy Ball]

49. Eh.

Fortunately I haven't become too emotionally invested in the whole thing.

I'd still say the bush administration is having one shitty hell of a time, and it's only 2005. Ha! With power comes responsibility and they've been fucking that up from the get-go, but it's just now getting REAL obvious.

[Ksec]

50. Ill run out of my house screaming and burning down everything

in my path, Ill go on a murder spree and kill thousands of innocents.

Oh wait, thats what Bush did.

[Arkana]

51. I will be disappointed, but I also know

that the real damage has already been done. People don't trust this administration anymore. They don't fall for the lies, they don't jump at the terralerts, and they don't take Snotty Scotty's stonewalling at face value.

[Justice Is Comin]

52. I have no anxiety that there will be no indictments, first of all.

Second, I believe it only takes ONE indictment to provide the impetus for Joe Wilson to go forward with his civil litigation. That means mucho trouble more.

[Telly Savalas]

53. I may be in the minority, but I don't think they matter that much.

How "Traitorgate" or whatever you wanna call it turns out will have minimal effect on how the GOP governs for the next few years and will have little effect on election results in the near future.

[leeroysphitz]

54. POORLY... n/t

[cmf]

58. I won't be surprised.

I don't think anything will really come of them. It will be same old sh*t we're used to in Washington in a few weeks. I hope I'm wrong, though. I'm just not getting my hopes up like many.

[sundog]

60. bushco is going DOWN!!!!

can you feel it?

i have felt it before, but not more than i feel it now

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

62. maybe

[JVS]

63. Like this

:shrug: