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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:23 PM
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Bill Kristol TOTALLY SHAKEN on The Daily Show
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 10:28 PM by berni_mccoy
John Stewart is TEARING HIM TO PIECES and having FUN doing IT!!!!

:wow: THE FREEPERS ARE TOTALLY TIPPED OVER!!!!
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BloodyWilliam Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:24 PM
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1. Tivo'd.
I'd love to kick this guy's ass. Geez, he's like Ralph Reed in 10 years, only with "Republican" instead of "Christian Republican." Smarmy little shithead.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:53 PM
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62. VIDEO
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 05:10 PM
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67. He looked like he had a coke jaw thingy going
Thank you for the link. Exellent.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:25 PM
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2. DETAILS! Please!
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:02 PM
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41. First, he is trying to chuckle but it sounds like pig snorts
Second he is saying that Bush is a "good" president, that will be toughen by recent events. Agreed, than retracted, that Karl Rove will be indicted. Predicted that Miers will withdraw from consideration in two weeks.

Interesting that all the freepers with their books run to Stewart to promote their books there, even at the risk of being humiliated for five minutes, since it was found that their books do get a boost from being promoted on the Daily Show.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 04:28 PM
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63. Note that as Kristol is saying Bush is a "good" president, and
that he would be toughened by recent events, it's fairly easy to discern that Kristol is trying to come off as half-serious or funny. Or possibly, he believes his position, but subconsciously knows it is weak.
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:25 PM
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3. Krystol is talking out of his ass.
Jon is kicking his ass. :bounce:
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MarsThe Cat Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:25 PM
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4. HOWEVER-
Jon just ley him get away with a bunch of wmd LIES!!!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:27 PM
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10. Nah, He let Bill HAVE SOME ROPE
then John STRUNG HIM UP WITH IT:

Bill ACTUALLY SAID keeping 150,000 soldiers so the WMD INSPECTORS could do their job would have been too costly...

JOHN TOTALLY RUNG HIS BELL WITH IT!!!! IT WAS B.E.A.U.TIFUL!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:26 PM
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5. He can't say one thing that doesn't contain a lie.
I can't believe how many lies he told in front of Jon tonight.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:26 PM
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6. Agreed, Jon is tearing him up and Kristol knows it
I'm not even sure why someone like Kristol comes on the show. Does he think ANY of the audience will buy his book, especially when Jon picks it up at the beginning and says "Reading this, I have to give you credit, you were wrong about Iraq way before anyone else was."
LOL.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:39 PM
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26. I don't know why either
:shrug: Same with people like O'Reilly.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:04 PM
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44. Because publishers found out that books promoted on the Daily Show
do get a boost, similar to Oprah. So they are willing to tolerate five minutes of humiliation to do this. Santurum, too.
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:26 PM
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7. He did it delicately with nunchuks.
Then dusted off his hands and didn't hate him afterwards. Perfect.
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CelticWinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:27 PM
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8. krystal has been nervous all week
I saw him a week ago on something and he looked like all the blood was drained from his body.....I LMAO he deserves to be on pins and needles.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:30 PM
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14. He always looks like that....like Bob Woodward's anemic twin.
:-)
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:41 PM
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27. I call him the smiling neocon
He creeps me out like a freaky John Wayne Gacy clown
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:00 PM
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39. Cheap Justice John Roberts has that kreeped-out Kristol grin too
Children of the Corn-servatives, if you ask me...
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:00 AM
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53. Maybe it's the drugs they take.......
Pickles has it too.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:00 AM
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54. Dupe
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 12:02 AM by Tinksrival
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:00 AM
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55. douple dupe
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 12:02 AM by Tinksrival
crap sorry
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:21 AM
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56. Oh, God! Someone should make a scrapbook of neo-con smiles.




Something IS creepy about these guys!

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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:02 PM
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42. you nailed that!
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:41 PM
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28. Opps
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 10:42 PM by Tinksrival
Double post
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:01 PM
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40. Yeah, that's it!
I always see him and think: "Hey, is that Woodward? No, it's that other guy..."
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:54 AM
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59. Is Woodward old enough to be Kristol's dad?
I know that Kristol's parents are elderly. Irving and oh what's her name? She's some kind of an expert on Victorian morals.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:57 AM
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60. Gertrude Himmelfarb
That's Kristol's mother.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 04:55 PM
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66. oh my
Gertrude's mother must have hated her
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:41 PM
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29. I love it
I love all of these guys scrumbling around like their heads are cut off. :popcorn:
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:27 PM
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9. william kristol or billy crystal?? n/t
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:29 PM
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13. William "Neocon" Kristol
Son of Irwin Kristol, one of the original Neocons from way back when.


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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:07 PM
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46. And Quayle Chief of Staff (nt)
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:16 PM
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49. And a chickenhawk
And he was involved somewhat in the Arkansas Project.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:18 PM
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50. And a founding member of PNAC n/t
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:22 PM
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51. And a lying sack of shit during the NAFTA debate
<nt>
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:30 PM
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15. poor Billy he's stuck with the same name
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:31 PM
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17. When the dust settles
Kristol will be completely discredited. The true conservatives won't forgive him for being wrong even though they bought into his bullshit. Scafe or whoever is the $ behind his little dipshit mag will pull the plug and he'll be reduced to Dennis Miller status groveling around for a chance to get his face on tv.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:28 PM
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11. Wow! Kristol is a tenth grader!
Me made Kristol look like a tenth grader!

Kristol was just repeating the same old tired talking points. He was truly flustered.

AND he said Rove will probably be indicted.


Otherwise, Jon's simple, candid way of just being honest had him on the ropes.

These people are total clowns. Exposed!
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:28 PM
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12. The guy stammers when he's nervous.
When he's on Foxnews Sunday he isn't so nervous. Probably because he knows the Daily Show audience will call him on his bullshit.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:03 PM
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43. Oh of course
On faux he can say whatever the hell he wants. Not on the Daily show.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:31 PM
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16. Bill Kristol has looked totally shaken & demoralized since
the Miers nomination. I think he defended Bush & put up with a lot in the hopes that Bush would nominate his great conservative justice. When that didn't happen, maybe Kristol finally realized that Bush really is only out for himself. Going on The Daily Show seems a little like an act of self-hatred. Maybe he's regretting his support for Bush (all this & I didn't even watch the show! Is it online anywhere?)
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:31 PM
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18. Jon basically told him that the neo-con movement is finished.
Bill Kristol said something like, "Hey, whatever doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger..." and Jon said, "Well, unfortunately...." kind of under his breath.

He covered it up by saying, "Oh, no, the Bush Administration"....but the implication was clear.

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:35 PM
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19. "Whatever doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger."
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 10:36 PM by Straight Shooter
Not true. Sometimes, what doesn't kill you will cripple you.

Let's hope the neocons are permanently crippled.

edit typo
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:38 PM
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22. I think Jon was implying that they're dead. nt
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:49 PM
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36. I think so, too.
I also think Kristol was trying to make the best of a bad situation by coming up with a trite response. There was even an implied threat in what he said, along the lines of, "Wait and see. We'll be back and we'll be stronger."
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:07 PM
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47. I'll believe that they're dead when the likes of Paul Wolfowitz,
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 11:10 PM by arewenotdemo
Richard Perle and Elliot Abrams are behind bars for life.

Hard snakes to kill, all.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:37 PM
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21. That was great. It was almost like Kristol suggested it was failing
at one point, stewart said something like "the whole thing is going down," and Kristol said "the war in iraq? the conservative movement?" I thought it was funny that Kristol was equating impending failure with the conservative movement :rofl:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:38 PM
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23. Exactly. He even said it, not Jon. nt
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:58 PM
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37. It seems like WK has been pulling away from bush
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 11:01 PM by alfredo
policy. He still tries to promo the Neo line, but his heart isn't in it.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:35 PM
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20. I was stunned. Jon tightened the vicegrip!
He's killing him!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Peace.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:39 PM
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When do you think they'll have the clip on comedycentral.com?
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:41 PM
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30. It's better to go here
www.crooksandliars.com They play the whole thing. Comedy Central usually posts a partial version.
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EricWhitaker Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:58 PM
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38. Is it up yet
I clicked on the site and it doesnt appear to be up. How long does it usually take? I cannot wait to see this!
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:10 PM
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48. sorry, you probably will have to wait til some time tomarrow
but go to crooksandliars.com and download Letterman interviewing Al Franken and SNL's parody of bush interviewing the troops. They were both pretty good.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:39 PM
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24. Whoo-hoo!
Go Jon go!
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:39 PM
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25. Could you post an update for the poor souls w/o cable?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:44 PM
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31. Jon didn't have to do a thing
It seemed like Kristol was so ashamed of the reich
that he didn't even bother putting up a persuasive
argument.. and the half-hearted defense he
put up for Dubya was puncuated by revealing
smirks and giggles. He knows Bush is a joke...
he's just not allowed to say it.

That was stunning television.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:44 PM
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32. Bill looked like he wasn't ready to play
John came to play and beat him to pieces. It was like Bill thought he was sitting across from Brit Hume and no one was going to smack those hanging curve-balls out of the park.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:46 PM
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33. Jon almost seemed to feel sorry for him in the end
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:47 PM
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34. The Weekly Standard will become the Weekly Spinturd
Kristol and his Neocon band of crooks, liars, and thieves are being exposed. Even some of my repuke friends are dog-cussing these fools because of what they've done to the repuke party. They realize now that the Neocons don't give a damn about their party, and it's just being used as a conduit to feed their own agenda.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:04 PM
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45. I've always called it "The Weakly Scammer"
It's basically a dumbed-down weekly clone of Bill Buckley's National(ist) Review, edited and engineered to instruct teh sheep on their talking points.
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Renegade Six Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:47 PM
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35. Is it just me
or was Kristol laughing trying to get out talking point early on? lost faith?
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:52 PM
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52. It's a tough time to be on a book tour when you're a founder of PNAC
Jon was too kind to Kristol. He didn't mention PNAC.

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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:37 AM
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57. SO! What happens to the propaganda apparatus of a political
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 12:37 AM by Marr
movement when that movement rots to nothing? I expect Mr. Kristol's paper has seen it's best days.
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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:48 AM
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58. Where is the video?
Haven't seen this interview but something that draws this kind of attention is usually up on one of the video blogs by now...
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 03:49 PM
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61. Video Up Now
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 04:31 PM
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64. Here's my rant about the 'moran:'
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 04:42 PM
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65. Just watched it an hour ago -- couldn't believe what I was seeing
I haven't seen Kristol for a long while, but he was all over the BBC in the run up to Iraq. Back then he was a vicious attack dog, a fierce defender of his ideas, of Bush and the neo-conservative movement in general.

Tonight he was just so pathetic. "I believe Rove will be indicted." In the old days he'd never of said that, regardless what he thought personally. Plus the stuff about the Miers appointment -- "She'll step down in the next 2 weeks." -- talk about not singing from the same hymn sheet anymore.
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