What should be done with Saddam?

[ButterflyBlood]

Poll question: What should be done with Saddam?

I say this trial needs to be done at the Hague. It's becoming more and more blatantly obvious.

[Deja Q]

1. Hague, followed by the group of people who told us of the imminent threat

that Saddam posed, of which there was none.

Eventual threat, LIKELY.

But it was hawked to us as being IMMINENT, which was an outright lie. Then came the blathering of "oooh, liberation for these people - they will want it and thank us for it."

Just how many excuses were used once it started looking as if the "imminent threat" thing was less than true?

Mind you, the trial for those people needs to be as fair as Saddam's AND past histories taken into account... after all, Saddam and Rumsfeld used to be good friends...



http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/book/dec20.html (big picture with caption on the right)

[joemurphy]

4. An Iraqi friend of mine suggested putting him in a zoo...

so that all the relatives of those he killed could visit him on a
regular basis.

Other dictators tend to find asylum in other countries...Libya, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria. Where did we billet Charles Taylor and Idi Amin?

[bbinacan]

9. I like that idea. after that

throw him in with the lions.

[swag]

2. Executive position at Morgan Stanley

[ECH1969]

3. Isn't Slobo's trial supposed to go for 3-5 more years?

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[lvx35]

7. To be more precise, pull out and let the iraqis try him.

See if they really hate them when they are not told to do so at the point of a gun. From what I hear they would still hate him, but I say let it be shown.

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[lvx35]

11. Oh, he is.

There is NO WAY that an innocent verdict could come down, even if every peice of evidence pointed to it. The judge would be doomed. And yes, we should pull out now because 82% of iraqis want us to, and therefore democratic principles suggest that it is the right thing to do. Right now we have government in iraq without the consent of the governed.

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[Webster Green]

15. Secured?

Heh!

Just like we "secured" Vietnam?

Throughout history, these imperialist adventures go badly. This one will be no different.

[lvx35]

17. Saddam's guilt should be proven by trial

innocent until proven guilty, another cornerstone of the US that is being ignored just like government with the consent of the governed. But regarding Clark, he makes some smart points, I agree. From kos:

Clark met privately with the members of the Out of Iraq Caucus to give them his perspective on the ongoing conflict and offer advice on how Democrats should frame their arguments for bringing troops home. His call: Avoid specific timelines for withdrawal and focus instead on calling for and developing strategies for success that rely not on the military, but on diplomacy.

I'm not against getting together a strategy for the exit (which has no timeline) as Clark wants, but it needs to include milestones, things like "if you get your army together we'll leave", However since any such milestones would "just encourage the terrorists" they cannot be done either, leaving us permanently in iraq...because the bottom line is that leaving iraq at all "would just encourage the terrorists".

[LynnTheDem]

23. The "terrorists"?

You mean the insurgency?

No, can't be them, they're 95% Iraqi. Not sure what "terrorists" youmean.

[NYC Liberal]

29. Maybe he meant all those Iraqi terrorists who flew

planes into the WTC in 2001.

OH, wait a second...

[LynnTheDem]

45. Oh yeah I bet that's who he meant. And the biggest terrorist of all,

that Iraqi terrorist mastermind...oh damn, what is his name...Obama?...Ben bama???

Damn, can't remember.

[NYC Liberal]

48. Well actually, he probably WOULD call "Obama" a terrorist.

Like those people who think they are so funny, "accidentally" calling him "Osama."

[newyawker99]

26. Hi LevelHeadedModerate!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[A Simple Game]

6. Reinstate as president.

He's probably the only person who can stabilize Iraq.

There probably would be a lot less death and suffering if he was restored to power.

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

19. The Iraqi people can do a lot better than him.

Granted, it'll take a lot of time and work before Iraq reaches a state where it can be ruled effectively by anyone other than a total hardliner.

[A Simple Game]

21. I wasn't being that serious.

Although I may be right in the short term.

[geek tragedy]

28. Fascist freedom forever!!!!!!

Fascism isn't the answer.

[Monkey see Monkey Do]

8. Ideally, I'd like to see some kind of

Truth and Reconciliation Commission in Iraq. Sadly we're going to get a string of meaningless showtrials which, if anything, will further drive a wedge between Sunni & Shia/Kurd.

But in answer to your question - yes, Saddam should be tried in an international court.

[Richard D]

12. Cellmates with . . .

. . . *, after a trial at the Hague. Life, of course.

[Ksec]

14. Flip Flop.

We liked Saddam before he thumbed his nose at BigOil.

[-..__...]

16. Community service.

But not without an ankle bracelet or other tracking device.

[CardInAustin]

18. Make a public announcement

telling when and where Saddam will be dropped off in Baghdad. Let the people that he brutally oppressed for so long deal with him.

[enigma000]

20. Maybe a village in a Kurdish province n/t

[geek tragedy]

30. Halabja sounds like a good place. eom

[UTUSN]

22. Let's Get ON with the B.F.E.E. Trials------- n/t

[NoPasaran]

24. Give him a show on CNBC

That's pretty much the same thing as being dead without actually having to shoot him.

[OrlandoGator]

25. Put him on the stand, let him explain how Reagan put him into power.

n/t

[geek tragedy]

27. 25% of DU'ers are blatant fascists, according to this poll.

Release Saddam or reinstate him as President?

Fucking morons.

Anyhoo, I think Saddam should be tied to a post in Halabja (along with Chemical Ali) where the locals can dispense rough justice with him.

[ProfessorGAC]

33. Unbrilliant!

Gee, that'd show the rest of the world how a free nation dispense excercise justice, huh? I know he did it. You know he did it. But, the trial still needs to go forward in an orderly way, and the sentence should be in accordance with MODERN justice, not 8th century methods like the one you profess.

'Tis not funny, Geek.
The Professor

[geek tragedy]

34. Tongue in cheek, good professor.

Similarly, I wouldn't advocate a mob stringing up a fascist dictator, but my sense of justice isn't offended by what happened to Mussolini.

[ProfessorGAC]

36. Mine Is!

Mussolini was a very bad man (not in the Hitler, Pol Pot, or Stalin class, but pretty bad). But, i still frown upon mob justice.

Sorry about the first post. Didn't see your tongue bulging in the cheek.
The Professor

[geek tragedy]

37. As I said, I wouldn't advocate it.

But I can't say that the oppressed masses stringing up a tyrant is something I lose sleep over.

Cheers.

[ProfessorGAC]

39. I Certainly Wouldn't Be Surprised

Of course, if Mussolini didn't try to run away like a coward, he might have been spared mob justice. Trying to escape justice probably exacerbated the crowd's anger.
The Professor

[geek tragedy]

40. Fascism is a brotherhood of cowards. eom

[ProfessorGAC]

44. Full Agreement n/t

The Professor

[Texasgal]

31. Am I reading this right?

22% want to REINSTATE him as President?

:wtf:

[Mizmoon]

32. I imagine their logic is to "turn back the clock"

and let the UN deal with his crimes legally, as opposed to the illegal invasion. Or I hope that's their logic anyway.

[geek tragedy]

35. Reinstate means restoring him to power, with control over the

military and secret police.

Sad.

[Texasgal]

38. One can only hope.

I continue to be blown away by DU sometimes. Really.

[BL611]

41. Yes I often wonder

whether at least some of the nuttier people on this site are not just Republicans having fun, I suppose if I had nothing else to do with my time logging on to Freerepublic as a neo nazi would be somewhat amusing....

[dkofos]

42. Try him in the Hague

And sell the video of Saddam telling the world who it was that made him who he was.

Inquiring minds want to know.

[H2O Man]

43. That's for Iraq to decide. n/t

[MN ChimpH8R]

46. Lock him up with Chimpy

in the same cell after they are both tried and convicted in the Hague.

[Jack_DeLeon]

47. Find him guilty and execute him...