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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:57 PM
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If Bush new about Karl -- could that be obstruction of justice?
My question of course assumes that he knew before he testified, and that he didn't say "oh yeah Karl did it" when he was testifying.

He wasn't under oath -- so they couldn't get him on perjury, but what about obstruction?

Come on -- some one out there must know.
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nradisic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:58 PM
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1. Small crimes and misdemeanors?
IMPEACH!
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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:59 PM
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2. he would have to have been specifically asked about it
and lied.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:59 PM
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3. think musoloini
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:59 PM
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4. As long as there was no blow job involved, the freepers and fundies
won't give a shit :evilgrin:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 09:02 PM
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5. Probably not. Unless the conversation was recorded, and it
probably wasn't, no atty would be able to prove obstruction in court.

I really don't think you have to worry much about Shrub though. If he loses Rove, Scooter, possibly Cheney, and who knows how many other close aides, take him off the grill...he's done!

All the Pubs in Congress wil abandon him to save their own behinds.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 09:02 PM
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6. I would think it qualifies.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 09:02 PM
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7. "obstruction of Justice" and "Bush" are interchangeable in any
sentence.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 09:03 PM
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8. Of course Clinton was impeached for that (nt)
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 09:06 PM
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9. People who have lied to the FBI during investigations...
... are subject to indictment for obstructing justice, and are not under oath at the time.

If Bush was told (and that would be the case if the stories are correct that he was bent out of shape about Rove's stupidity in getting involved), and he misled the prosecutor during questioning, yes, he could be found guilty of obstructing justice.

However, prior Justice Dept. findings suggest that the prosecutor could not indict him. That was part of the reason why Nixon was listed as an unindicted co-conspirator in the court filings--that way, Jaworski could then subpoena evidence that would, in turn, convince Congress to pursue impeachment.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 09:41 PM
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10. It's called cover-up.
I still remember Sen. Howard Baker (R-TN) saying before Sam Ervin's (D-SC) Senate Watergate Hearing, "What did the President know and when did he know it?"

This question immediately leaped to memeic status because it focussed the debate on precisely what you infer. If the President knew about this two years ago and has since stonewalled it, he has obstructed justice. Period! Game over, Man. Game over.
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