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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:05 PM
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The Spin is In; the neocons speak: It was all the CIA's fault.
Just watched Brit Hume on Fox (just surfing!) and they had "commentary" from Krauthammer, who blamed the CIA for Bush's troubles and Fred Barnes, whose tongue is permanently in the administration's private parts. So, here's the talking points we can expect: The whole Wilson "thing" is simply another indication of the CIA's incompetence. The CIA did not well serve the president. My take? They know the investigation goes beyond "outing" Valerie Plame to the underlying rationale for the war, and that's why the talking points are shifting. Krauthammer may have gone even further than the administration in even now effusively praising Ahmed Chalabi (not a Rove tactic). But watch it, my friends: It's the CIA's fault. And with that, they are grasping at straws.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:10 PM
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1. Barnes should just shut his sorry yap. Memories of straws is more like
it. I am so tired of the current lie being told in an attempt to further discredit Wilson, which is the mis-quote from his article. If I remember correctly, he never said that Cheney the Dick sent wanted him to go to Niger; he said the trip stemmed from an inquiry by the VP's OFFICE...too subtle a difference for the lying sacks of shit running our country into the ground, but a major distinction in terms of fact (fact being the REAL filthy four-letter F-bomb to a conservative: "fuck" obviously is fine, as long as it's the VP uttering it on the Senate floor...)
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:12 PM
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2. BushCo commits treason, Fox says: "criminalization of politics"
Clinton gets a BJ:

IMPEACHMENT!!!
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:14 PM
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3. "It's the CIA's fault that we deliberately exposed a covert network."
That doesn't wash, does it?
It parses (barely) but it does not connect with reality.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:14 PM
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4. Did Krauthammer diagnose the CIA as crazy?
And remember way back, before the war. Wasn't there neocon grumbling that the CIA was dragging it's feet? That they were somehow holding back on the REAL story about all those WMD's?

Anyone remember who said what and when?
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:16 PM
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5. Beltway Boys? Ought to be called Bushway Boys.
Why not just have the RNC guys on to talk?

Sometimes I wonder how scripted some of these moments are. They have to know who is leading in this dance, and who is following.



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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:16 PM
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6. Sure it was all their fault.
The shouldn't have worn that miniskirt.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:20 PM
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7. "the investigation goes ... to the underlying rationale for war"
That's it exactly, and that's why they're spinning like crazy. All of this in the end is about a war that was based on a fraudulent premise. It's about what the man who claims to be president has based his presidency on.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:27 PM
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9. You are right. And what has happened to our Tigers?
There is a sense of desperation here. And I don't mean the Tigers. But, above my computer, as I write this, is the framed Sports Illustrated cover of early 1984, "Detroit Is In the Driver's Seat," which I had autographed by Alan Trammell when it came out. It's a prized possession, from the time, and I am glad to salute your Olde English D.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:31 PM
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10. It's a long way back...
If it makes you feel any better, I was talking to some White Sox fans in Chicago over the weekend about the world series, and they said it had been 60 or something years since either Chicago team had been to the World Series. So maybe 21 years isn't sooo bad.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:26 PM
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8. I doubt that that will influence the Grand Jury.
And if, as I now believe, Bush lied to the Grand Jury...well, I wonder whose fault that will be?
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:17 PM
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11. The OSP they created replaced the CIA, so how is it the CIAs
fault exactly? They aren't telling the part about how this administration went around the CIA and has tried along to discredit the CIA, except for the days when Darth Cheeny went to demand his lies be supported in reports.
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