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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:13 PM
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NY Daily News ties WHIGs to Judith Miller. "Judy was a charter member."
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 03:14 PM by seafan
October 19, 2005

BY JAMES GORDON MEEK and KENNETH R. BAZINET
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU


WASHINGTON - It was called the White House Iraq Group and its job was to make the case that Saddam Hussein had nuclear and biochemical weapons.

So determined was the ring of top officials to win its argument that it morphed into a virtual hit squad that took aim at critics who questioned its claims, sources told the Daily News.

--snip

Besides Rove and Libby, the group included senior White House aides Karen Hughes, Mary Matalin, James Wilkinson, Nicholas Calio, Condoleezza Rice and Stephen Hadley. WHIG also was doing more than just public relations, said a second former intel officer.

"They were funneling information to Judy Miller. Judy was a charter member," the source said.


http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/357109p-304302c....
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:15 PM
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1. Charter Member
figures......

recommend
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:17 PM
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2. So has the NY Daily News replaced NYT as the paper of record?
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:28 PM
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15. No
See this sentence from their article.

===
When Wilson was sent by his wife to Africa to research the claims, he showed the documents claiming Saddam tried to buy the uranium were forgeries.
===

This is the stuff of Faux News parvenue, no?
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:32 PM
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17. or just poor writing/editing
it is "New York's Picture Newspaper" after all
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:09 PM
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33. I'm guessing the NY Times has some disgruntled reporter leaking
like mad because of the BS that has gone on with Judy Kneepads and her (non)boss, Keller.

I'll bet the REAL reporters there are going to get the garbage flushed one way or the other.

Expect more info inside the Times to be reported by other papers.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:19 PM
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40. Now there's an idea to warm your heart
Real journalists inside the corporate propaganda machine "turning" at the same time real rats inside the crime gang are turning.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:43 PM
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21. It's a dirty job; but somebody's got to do it. The New York Times
lost all credibility.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:16 PM
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38. The nation's paper of record has become the nation's paper of refuse. n/t
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:17 PM
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3. so...... isn't that the a crime in itself?
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:17 PM
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4. You think some pissed-off NY Times reporter is giving
info to NY Daily News because he knows his bosses won't run the story? That's the only explanation I have for the NY Daily News running this stuff. It's not its usual cup of tea.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:56 PM
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26. That theory sounds very plausible. n/t
n/t
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:17 PM
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5. The Daily News is on FIRE
I have always liked their Washington bureau stories but not enough to buy the paper. Now maybe I will!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:28 PM
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14. Someone in the the NY press has to be.
There's a vacuum here.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:37 PM
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20. And A Lot Of Conflicts
The Times has all but negated itself on this entire story. MSGOP and NBC are next to fall. The Post and Murdoch's media empire is in full "circle-the-wagons" mode...so that vacuum you say is right there and I wouldn't be surprised if the Daily News is jumping in to grab some headlines, readers and rub in a little salt.

Seems like after years of people sitting on information, things are flowing rather freely right now. It gets curiouser and curiouser.

:popcorn:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:52 PM
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23. MSNBC with the noted exception of Keith Olbermann
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 03:53 PM by Clark2008
Keith's been running the NY Daily's stories on the Miller matter.

:)
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:58 PM
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29. I'm Refering To Mrs. Greepsan, Tweety & Timmy
The trio who sat on the names of the leaker for two years and now play judge and jury on those networks without mentioning their own roles in this sorrid affair.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:59 PM
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31. Did you forget about The Sun?
:rofl:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:16 PM
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37. Actually, Lori Rozen of War and Piece quotes them a lot.
They must have someone who knows how to shake a story out of the neocons.

Luckily, Lori Rozen reads it so the rest of us don't have to. ;)
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:18 PM
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6. WOW! And the hits just keep on coming! Judy
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 03:19 PM by Pithy Cherub
has single handedly destroyed the NYT's journalism leader thing, a sitting Vice President and his staff and added a few more holes in the swiss cheese that was her reputation. OH, and her *journalism* peers give her an award - yesterday. How embarrassing for those idiots at the SPJ.

:wow:

I am SO outta :popcorn:
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:22 PM
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8. That sure didn't get much coverage did it.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:59 PM
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30. Singlehandedly? No, she had help from Jayson Blair, et al
NYT has been circling the drain for some time now. Judas Miller is just a symptom of the illness that is corporate media ownership.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:20 PM
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7. She's the Franklin reporter I bet
Larry Franklin also passed classified information to "members of the media", bloggers and one print reporter. She has to be it, it just fits.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:35 PM
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19. I'll bet you're right. Now we have the link between Franklin, WHIGs,
Miller's WMD propaganda in the NYT, WHIG's punishing Joe Wilson by vindictively exposing his wife, and Cheney and * orchestrating it all.


It's all over but the perps' screaming now.
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oregonindy Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:22 PM
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9. Holy crapasarus batman! indict her please please please
and then once found guilty of treason hang her from the neck until dead like the other traitors!
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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:23 PM
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10. hope Fitz knows about this
:popcorn:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:26 PM
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11. How many news reporters are Charter Members WHIG!!!
and it has to be Judy Miller!!!

OREILLEY is going to get Psst cause he wasn't asked!!!
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:27 PM
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12. Makes sense, kick and nominated! n/t
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:57 PM
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28. What is your avatar?
It looks angry and hungry.
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:11 PM
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35. It is the Flying Spaghetti Monster
WWFSMD? is of course the abbreviation of the sum of the Flying Spaghetti Monsterism - What Would Flying Spaghetti Monster Do?
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:17 PM
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39. I'm an atheist
I guess that's why I didn't recognize it.
Am I supposed to bow down in front of it? I think I might hurt it if I burned incense.
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:52 PM
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43. Atheist or not here is the site
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:59 PM
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44. It looks like a fiddler crab surrounded by Ascarid nematodes
I wouldn't want that thing to be the designer/creator for ANYTHING!
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:28 PM
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13. Might explain her insistence on confining her testimony about Libby only.
By doing that, she probably hoped to keep her direct involvement with the rest of the WHIGs hidden.

Sorry, Judy. You need to get ready to go back to prison.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:30 PM
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16. Do they put WHIG's on Skulls & Bones ?
Or do they put Skull & Bones on WHIGs?

So many questions.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:34 PM
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18. her title must have been
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 03:34 PM by notadmblnd
Lead Propaganda Catapulter
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:44 PM
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22. She IS the Little Drummer Girl ... an agent for THEM
She was completely coopted by Libby and the WH. They had a journalist on the team, and she was IT.

As the inevitability of the indictments approaches, we will see more and more terror, and suggestions of terror threats, real or imaginary.

I have my own ideas where the terror threats are really coming from, and I think this is probably it:
http://www.webcomicsnation.com/neillisst
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:54 PM
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24. I jope Miller & Matalin go down - Carville is a sellout
And I hope he doesn't get any conjugal visits. Serves him right for marrying a criminal.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:25 PM
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41. Carville came to my neck of the woods in Dec2004 for the sole purpose
to squelch the librals claiming another illegitimate
election.
He gave his pathetic speech that the Democrats just
don't got what it takes to beat the Thugs.
He said that the Dems aren't religious enough prefer womans prochoice and aren't tough enough when it comes to war.
That we Dems are wrong on all the issues!

My response was.....F*ck you Carvel!!!!!
And that the election was stolen in 2000 and it was F*cking stolen
in 2004! And when Bush holds the Polsters at gunpoint to push
those F*cking phoney numbers in favor of his popularity ....

Well, F*ck you Carvel!!!....We are in the majority with
our LIBRAL issues!!!!!!

Screw you and your F*cking treasonous wife Matalin!!!
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:30 PM
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50. Couldn't put it better myself!
:hi:

:thumbsup:
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Singular73 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:55 PM
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25. Sounds like a leak from the Rove side.
Trying to get this thing on the Cheney side of the fence.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:57 PM
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27. If true, then Judy Miller should be indicted as a co-conspirator.
At the very least. :grr: Furthermore, she'd also be guilty of obstruction of justice.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:27 PM
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42. I suspect the note about Winpac in her "found" notebook is...
a recent addition and another count of obstruction.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:01 PM
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32. I have hated the NYT coverage of EVERYTHING immensely since 2000.
I read a book about the Times's foreign coverage and it was good, but not super compelling. I was still looking for concrete, compelling explanations describing the atrociousness of its coverage.

In this Plame investigation, I am finding some VERY compelling explanations for their utter abandonment of journalistic integrity.

The NYT is going to have to do some serious and public house-cleaning and soul searching before this is over if they have any interest in even retaining a tiny shred of crediblity which has been tattered and fraying for years.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 05:06 PM
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45. 2000?
what about Jeff Gerth?

Wen Ho Lee?

Neil Lewis?

NYT has sucked it hard for close to two decades
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:11 PM
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49. They disappointed me before 2000. They've angered me since.
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drbtg1 Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:09 PM
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34. The spirit of Lars-Erik Nelson...
...is alive and well at the New York Daily News.

(Mr. Nelson was a great columnist for their paper until his passing in 2000. I'll always remember his column on Al Gore and the Internet. In this age of shoddy and deliberately misleading journalism, I miss his columns more than ever.)
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:14 PM
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36. The NY Daily News is gonna bury the NYT.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 05:11 PM
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46. Her name is not judy or judith it's JUDAS.. .She betrayed her nation
the bill of rights and the constitution.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 05:18 PM
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47. I understand that it has been proven that Ms. Plame DID NOT send Wilson
I hear this repeated as fact. It implies a bunch of weird shit.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 05:19 PM
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48. She's the Neo-Cons' Gun Moll
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 05:20 PM by Stephanie
She's a mighty tasty dish to a guy like Dick Cheney. Not that he could do anything about it.
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