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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:15 PM
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Condi Rice; "LESS THAN 50 YEARS". Time to ENLIST, rightwingnuts!
Iraq all hunky dory in LESS THAN 50 YEARS.

Ya thought a lot of Americans died in 'Nam? Count the bodies after 50 years in Vietraq.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:16 PM
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1. Lyn I will have to read the transcript but apparently she actually
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 12:17 PM by nadinbrzezinski
spoke the truth today... we are there to remake the ME... I remember Reading that in the PNAC papers... what they ran out of damn lies?
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:21 PM
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4. A major doctrine of the PNAC was remaking the Middle East. Why does MSM
media continue to ignore this. I give up.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:37 PM
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15. Because it is not convenient to the stenography corp
they want the same thing, remember that, we have no free press, just corporate press
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:20 PM
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2. what happened to rummy's prediction?
"It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." 2/7/03

notice the 666 :scared:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:20 PM
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3. Imagine the difference if they'd been upfront about how long it
would take from the beginning. "We" would never have gone there in the first place.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:22 PM
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5. That is EXACTLY what Boxer said to her
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:31 PM
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10. Many of us were thinking . . . .
"If it is too good to be true, something is wrong . . . ."

The fact that not enough Americans thought that to make a difference in the outcome is corroborated by the number of emails all of us get from strangers trying to transfer millions of dollars to U.S. accounts with your assistance.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:26 PM
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7. For "regime change" over 75% Americans said HELL NO.
For "humanitarian" over 80% Americans said HELL NO.

Even for "WMD" a slim majority said HELL NO.

"LESS THAN 50 YEARS"; rightwingnuts, you and your KIDS, your GRANDKIDS need to ENLIST.

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:33 PM
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12. Everyone who voted for Bush has a MORAL OBLIGATION
to either enlist, or volunteer, and to see to it that their families do likewise.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:27 PM
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30. It's a patriotic duty.
Their patriotism is at stake here.

Make those yellow ribbon magnets mean something.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:26 PM
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6. They can't have MY boys or their kids should they ever have any
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:28 PM
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9. If you're not a Quaker, it's time to start attending. WITH your boys.
I've not been to meeting in a few years but I will start attending again with my children.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:36 PM
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13. We go to church but we're not Quakers. Will have to document their
CO status as we go along. They may be only 5 and 7 right now, but obviouslu Uncle Sam is planning on grabbing them up the second they turn 18.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:37 PM
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14. good. :) I'm glad you're on top of that.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:38 PM
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17. Be sure that their schools provide you with the "Opt Out" papers
to protect them from the provision in No Child Left Behind that mandates that the schools give any student information that Military Recruiters request, unless the parents have officially opted out.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:27 PM
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8. Exactly Boxer's Point
They said this war would be over in under a year.

It was NEVER about REGIME change. It was all about WMDs!

This thread needs to be nominated.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:41 PM
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18. Rice and Powell Say that a Disarmed Saddam Could Stay in Power
That was then.

That was a total lie.

Rice: "The goal here is to disarm Saddam Hussein"

"All were interested in is getting rid of those weapons of mass destruction."

http://www.intelmessages.org/Messages/National_Security...

That was a lie.

Now Americans will die in Iraq for "LESS THAN 50 YEARS".
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TheModernTerrorist Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:11 PM
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27. oh, that?
yeah, they meant cut off his arms ;-)
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:32 PM
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11. 'We expect it to be safe before Chernobyl is. Take that, commies!'
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:37 PM
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16. It does not surprise me that republicans think long term about war
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 12:55 PM by SoCalDem
They plotted the takeover of America for about 35 years.That's what republicans do best...longterm planning...They are patient. Democrats think in terms of today and tomorrow, the next election. That's why we have a hard time winning lately..

Can you even imagine people accepting a democrat's "vision" of a 50-year war, and the deaths and injuries that accompany such a war??But for some odd reason, those words just roll off the tongues of republicans as easily as if they were ordering lunch from the deli.... "I'll have a pastrami on rye..oh.. and a side order of Shock & Awe cluster bombs.....and a diet coke..
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:41 PM
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19. They are trying to permanently root War Profiteering in the Middle-Class
jobs base. Get enough people paying their mortages and car payments with money made from "liberating" other nations and you can do anything you want in the World.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:50 PM
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20. I'll take an Executive Order with my Baghdad Burger.
Does a PNAC come with that shake.

I'm actually quite pissed off. I'm just very fortunate to have found DU.
We keep it in perspective. The perspective of honesty.
No permanent bases my ass. We know what they're up to. We knew they were lying. What the fuck is wrong with our Senators. Only a dozen know what's really going on. Or are willing to admit it.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:08 PM
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21. I want 15 mins w Rice. I have time-dated posts from Nov 2002
where I said Iraq DOES NOT have any "wmd", that the USAF said the "drones" were total bullshit for recon only; I said the DoE experts laugh at the aluminum tubes bullshit.

I have time-dated posts in January 2003 calling BULLSHIT to bush's SOTUA and his bullshit "Niger" crap.

HOW COME *I* KNEW???

HOW COME Republican Ron Paul knew and READ OUT that he knew it was BULLSHIT on the House floor in October 2002?

HELL YES WE KNEW.

Yet Condi and bushCabal claim they DIDN'T know??? Then they're too damn STUPID to be doing anything but pushing mops.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:11 PM
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26. It's fear.
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 02:12 PM by Gregorian
In 1990, I walked into the office and said, "No blood for oil.". And I felt guilty as hell. But deep down I knew.

It's my firm belief that they bullied us into being affraid. And it was a slow process. Part of it was the drug war. Their ability to run rampant. To hang from helicopters by ropes, in black suits, with M-16's, terrorizing people in rural areas. They caged us with their bully tactics. And they got there by virtue of people who had kids and who had jobs, and who didn't have the time to pay attention. They just said no, and believed the gov't was doing things in the best interests of the people. Seat belts, bullshit. Helmet laws, bullshit. It seems absolutely valid at first sight. Until one realizes the reality of it. It's an area where even liberals are still towing the line. Even if it were valid, it all serves to ratched down the very freedoms and liberties that make this country what it was intended to be.


edit- Shame on me. You deserve a huge amount of credit for speaking out when you did. You're brave.
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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:33 PM
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23. The perspective of honesty.
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 01:33 PM by EuroObserver
That's the one. Even the masters of PSYOPS, or whatever the new term is, know that's the most effective way to go. Less danger of a nasty backlash when the lies eventually spin out, too.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:27 PM
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22. Well, I will be dead, and all of our succeeding generations will still be
paying for that fuckup.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:03 PM
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24. Makes you wonder how long Iraqi Oil Reserves are estimated to
last? Fifty Years?
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:06 PM
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25. Will the military use 'stop loss' for fifty years?
Let's see if any of this makes the TV news tonight - not BLOODY likely.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:21 PM
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28. So we'll pull out on her 100th birthday? What an asshat.
No wonder they want to put the kibosh on birth control.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:24 PM
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29. K & R (nt)
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:30 PM
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31. Beware the idealogues
Or as Joseph Wilson refers to them (neo-cons) a CULT.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:57 PM
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32. And some actually worry that Ms. Rice may win votes for the presidency!
What sort of nuts do they think people are? No more guaranteed edu for those without even half a chance in this nation! No more poor kids actually excelling with tech degrees after their stint in the service! No more pride and honor gained by those seldom deemed worthy of respect! No more opportunity to actually succeed by joining our military, in a country with every card stacked against achieving any "American dream"!

NO!


It'll be shrapnel to the head, exploding roadkill blasting your humvee to hell and back, eyeballs hanging out of faces; picking up the pieces of your best buds, off of some desert sands, searching for limbs and extremities severed in a flashing fireball; lining up young teens in your rifle sights, youths not a lot different than yourself, furious you've brought your tanks to their country, rumbling up and down THEIR streets to "keep order"; coffins, hundreds more coffins, for the innocent pawns in this game that Condi wants us to play!

She won't say that we WON'T be invading Iran! She won't say that it's out of the question that Syria might be a target for future attacks! She won't say that we're looking at DECADES of an unwinnable scheme to drum up business for USA corporate assholes! She won't say that she expects the millions of working class youth in our country to do that dirty work for HER and her pals who uphold the PNAC dream of turning the entire WORLD into their castle! And the number one thing she will NEVER say is...guess what...you are all expendable, tools to be used up as necessary, suckered into dying for their dreams of conquest, and quieted if you disagree!
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 09:21 AM
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33. I'd like to see her say that on the campaign trail.
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 09:21 AM by Inland
"Anything I could say is mere speculation."

And we would be in Iraq then for, what, seven years already?
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