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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:56 AM
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Raw Story - Second aide assisting leak prosecutor,
Second aide assisting leak prosecutor,
those close to case say... Developing...

As usual RS is keeping people on edge

just thought you all wanted to know

In Florida watching with one eye on Wilma.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:56 AM
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1. Interesting...
:popcorn:
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:37 AM
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26. I think DU will need to open a server dedicated specifically to popcorn
:popcorn:
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:56 AM
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2. hopefully it's not another one "assisting" but really just lying
to protect Bush.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:57 AM
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3. Well we know about Hannah.
I would have to say one from Bush side now. Probably Rove, and damn this IS gonna go to next week.
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:58 AM
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4. It must be nice to be Fitz or one of his aides and KNOW what's
going on!!! I wish I was psychic...
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:42 AM
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27. What are the psychics and astrologers saying - anything new from Nancy
Waterman?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:59 AM
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7. let it go to the end if necessary for Fitz to cast the widest net...
...and bring down as many of these pigs as possible. We can wait for justice.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:02 AM
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8. I would just like to get some sleep.
:freak:
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Bethany Rockafella Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:59 AM
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5. A second aide?
Then it must be Hannah's assistant.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:03 AM
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9. Another aspen turned.
Interesting. Will this be a colorful autumn?

I think so. :evilgrin:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:11 AM
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11. seems the aspens have root rot.
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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:11 AM
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13. could be Scooter
Scooter's in a HEAP of trouble right now.
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:59 AM
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6. Any guesses who? Any aides on *'s side recently leave?
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:09 AM
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10. Second aide reporting to whom?
Fitz needs the next week for all of the plea bargain shoppers to negotiate their best deals. Heard this morning on the tube that Fitz also was not going to issue a *report* which indicates there are indictments potentially planned. That had to put the White House and the plea shoppers lawyers on notice too.

The aide "assisting" at this time would have to be in a position to know. Matalin would not be a bad guess. My thought is it is one of the WHIG echelon. Loving the fact they are turning on each other out of self-preservation!

:popcorn:
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:11 AM
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12. Its amazing how wolves can eat their own,
:hurts:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:12 PM
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33. Yep
They're probably not wanting to go to jail. ;) So much for loyalty!
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:16 AM
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15. Anyone else nervous?
I'm not sure what to make of this not issuing a report. I'm cautiously optimistic that it means he'll bring down a couple of administration assholes, but I'm kind of afraid that he might just close up shop so Junior and Crash-cart can happily pretend nothing has happened again.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:19 AM
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17. I'm nervous
When I read the article this morning in the NYTimes, I got nervous. It seems possible that Fitz will just close up shop with nothing. I still think indictments are coming but it's not a sure thing.

Welcome to DU!!
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:23 AM
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21. This is a world class prosecution practiced by a REALLY seasoned
professional. He has ice water in his veins and knows how to play legal jujitsu! At the maximum point of pressure on the subjects/targets little things are let out that force hands of the plea bargain shoppers. Fitz will announce findings in DC. No report - code for I am SO not done with you people... The date the Grand jury ends and the timeline for people to make deals. Fitz is masterful at not tipping his hand or expounding in ANY way what evidence he has. beautifully played and we have more Fitzmas episodes ahead!

btw, welcome to DU! :hi:
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:27 AM
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23. Affirmative
NEVER play poker with Patrick Fitzgerald. You'd walk away from the table wearing a barrel. No prosecutor as experienced as he is would pursue an investigation for this long and with this vigor, for no good reason. He's used to dealing with mobsters and making them squeal. BFEE is no different.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:41 PM
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40. It's always something I'm worried about myself
I'm always worried myself. :\ Especially with these people involved.
And welcome to DU.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:22 AM
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20. I think it is Matalin too. She would have a lot to lose,(her young kids)
and I bet her husband it very persuasive in encouraging to do the right think...Or he leaves with the children. She HAS to spill all the beans.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:35 AM
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24. That discussion with Matalin would have been really HARSH!
The prosecution: Here is the deal. You are a proven traitor to family and country. Your kids will hear stories about your criminal behavior and cooperation with criminals for the rest of their lives. Your grandchildren will read history books about what you did. And then it got HARSH...

Mary Matalin would be a prime candidate to target to flip.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:16 AM
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14. Could be
Hadley, heard he is going down too.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:17 AM
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16. On who turned...
...I would not say Rove is the one. Too much ego and too much arrogance. I mean the dumb ass volunteered for a 4th turn in front of the GJ. Like he can convince them his is not the one lying? Sheesh.

I would go with Libby. He is more the quiet man. Not as much arrogance as Rove. (LOL, does ANYONE have as much arrogance as Rove???) I am thinking this also because the investigation is so close to Cheney and not at Bush's feet like at Cheney's.

Really, not more than a guess on this.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:20 AM
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18. It's amazing how the threat of life in prison
can make a person talk.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:20 AM
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19. just fyi, the teasers are not my doing...
I don't like them in all honesty
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:43 AM
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28. thanks..
It knew it didn't "sound" like you...

(but it does up the jitters factor around here)
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:34 PM
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34. What happens is, we put it up about 10 min to press and always
And I mean always, there are copy edit issues that come up that have to come back to the writers and then back up through the editors, because in some cases, the direct quote or something can only be changed by the writers... like today, just happened, piece came back down, had to rewrite a part, then back up to editor. That is what is taking so long, in the mean time, you guys are left hanging. And what sucks worse is watching conversations going on for weeks here and not being able to speak to them because I am on the story. Now having to wait to tell you guys is no fun either. For me, the pleasure of the work is that it provides information and until that information is provided, I sit in limbo.

We will be surprised together, sort of, on some levels.

I must now go and evacuate Florida, which I should have been working on hours ago, but stopped to rewrite.

LA
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:40 PM
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39. Be safe lala! All the work you do
is appreciated. That has to be hard watching the discussions. But not as hard as evacuating. Be safe and stay well! :hug:
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:08 PM
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42. Thank you honey and the evacuation
Is not easy as I have to organize my parents, shut down my home, and I still have to go on a story trip Friday. As luck would have it, my Lupus is not liking the barometric pressure. So, I go to nap, pack, and fly.

Thanks for hugs sweetie, much appreciated, trust me! :)
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:24 AM
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22. Okay, I think this is showing some leaking coming from Fitzgerald
It seems to me, the guy is now turning over rocks to find more bugs.
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:37 AM
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25. I think that the WH is leaking about Cheney
and not Fitz. It's full scale civil war in the WH and Chimpy's people are trying to throw UnKKKle DicKKK over the side to save the Monkey.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:44 AM
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29. Leaking? All of their asses are leaking!
:rofl: :woohoo:
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:48 AM
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30. The first ones to jump on board and "sing" get the best deals. You don't
want to wait very long - it gets ugly at the end of the line. Maybe you will wind up in the "hole" in a maximum security prison.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:55 AM
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32. It's like those bridal gown sales they had at Filene's. Gotta be first!
The crush to the prosecutors office must be unbearable... :rofl:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:52 AM
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31. So there are now two aids??
Wow. Who is this one from?
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:35 PM
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35. yes, at least known... there may be others
but at this point, 2 that I am aware of.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:38 PM
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38. Please keep us updated maybe more than 2?
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:38 PM
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44. Mary Matalin and Ari Fleisher, come on down! You are the next
contestants on The Price of Prison is too high! (sorry, this is a repeat of a previous post, but I couldn't resist).

With young families, I just cannot imagine either one of these going to prison for BushCo.

Ari never seemed totally on board with the Neocon agenda and I think Matalin is just too damned smart to take the fall for these guys.

For all the talk of flip-flopping last year, who knew all of these players would be flipping this year!

On a side Lala.....I love what you do over there. I saw that thread yesterday - Don't let anyone get you down.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:36 PM
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36. Don't know yet
BREAKING HARD and all
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:37 PM
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37. I thought it was BREAKING SOFT... nt
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:03 PM
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41. Updated !!!!
Second Cheney aide Wurmser assisting
leak prosecutor, those close to case say

NEW YORK TIMES: INDICTMENTS EXPECTED


http://rawstory.com/
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:01 PM
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46. The Wurm Turned. LOL! nt
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:09 PM
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43. IT'S WURMSER!!!
Cheney is going down BIG TIME!!!
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:48 PM
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45. Let's hope they toss in Johnny B as an appetizer while they're at it. n/t
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