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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:59 AM
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How did Novak escape the noose?
If there is anyone who is a real mystery in this Plame-gate, it's Novak.

It was his article in July 2003 that set off the whole firestorm. Miller and Cooper, also reporters were either threatened with jail or got to spend time there.

Why is Novak walking free? He POSITIVELY knows who outed Valerie Wilson. He wrote the article. The only logical assumption would almost guarantee Novak was the first witness called.

Did he testify or not? Novak has been quiet as a mouse on visco elastic foam. There's only two conclusions. Either he sung like a trained parrot or he pleaded the fifth. I can't imagine Fitzgerald not seeking the same contempt order for refusal to testify if he didn't.

If he did prove to be the mother lode of information, it just warms my heart to know that Fitgerald has been having a field day ever since comparing what he already knew to what everyone else would say.

What is your theory on Novak? Is there even the remotest possibility that Novak gave Miller the name on the phone that she mistook for Valerie Flame?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:00 AM
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1. He said he was going to publish all he knew...
I think he sang like an American Idol wannabe.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:01 AM
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2. All that alchol lubricated his gin soaked neck.
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 02:01 AM by DanCa
The noose kept slipping off him
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:05 AM
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3. Well the timing isn't the same.
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 02:57 AM by hang a left
According to what we know, Novak was told in July. We recently learned that Miller first learned at the end of June. Miller could have been a source for Novak though.

I am sure he has been questioned, I am sure he has testified. But he ain't talking. He could have been offered a plea bargain. But I am not sure he really knew she was NOC. I think he was used. He was the only one stupid enough to write the original article.


on edit- Judy found out at the end of June not July.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:10 AM
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4. He hasn't been called back to testify.
I think that's a good indication that he gave Fitzgerald all the information he needed from Novak.

If Novak gave Miller the "Flame" name, the dentures would be to blame for the poor enunciation. Lol. But, really, I think the misspelling could have been deliberate on Miller's part, with some meaning behind it.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:18 AM
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5. Bingo. I thought it was because they wanted to burn her. n/t
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:49 AM
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13. In other words
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 02:49 AM by LittleClarkie
He coughed up so much information that Fitzgerald could see his spleen?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:51 AM
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14. I think she heard it from BIG DICK, over the PHONE
I think HE is her second source.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:05 AM
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26. I think so, too. Her high & mighty attitude speaks volumes.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:03 AM
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17. Dentures and Booze n/t
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:19 AM
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6. A: He was only a second-string player, although he alone PUBLISHED.
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 02:22 AM by dicksteele
B: He talked. He talked alot.
He answered every question,
then he SUGGESTED new questions!

He ratted on everyone, all the way back
to the classmate who swiped an extra
cookie during his kindergarten snack time.

Novak only got our attention FIRST because
he was the ONLY one stupid enough to put the TREASON
in print.
But in the big picture, he is a small sycophant
relegated to the outer circle of B*shCabalInc.

And when his "big break" earned him some legal HEAT...
he squealed.

*Blackadder Voice*
"Yes, Baldric, he squealed.
He SQUEALED like a very large SQUEALING THING
with its naughty bits entangled in some sort
of automated, stainless-steel squeal-generating apparatus".

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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:59 AM
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15. LOL
...then he suggest more questions. You are funny.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:41 AM
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21. Dicksteele you are too funny. Thanks for making my morning. n/t
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:50 AM
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22. HAHAHA too funny!
thanks for the laugh

'Squealing Thing'!
:rofl:

Love the Blackadder!
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 05:13 AM
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23. Yes, EVERYTHING is funny in the "Blackadder" voice!
Rowan Atkinson is a god-blessed GENIUS, ItellYaWhut!

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:27 AM
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7. Absolutely on the part about Novak being the first to talk
He positively gushed to Fitz. Who else he gushed to remains to be seen. And why are you so sure he won't be among those indicted?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:29 AM
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8. What makes you think he's escaped?
I think that Fitzgerald knows a lot more abour crime than this set of criminals. I bet he rolls up Novak and Miller, then makes the turn even harder.

We can always hope!
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:32 AM
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9. Because pigs squeal!!
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 02:36 AM by longship
nt
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:33 AM
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10. because he sang like a big f***ing yellow canary
he squealed
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:45 PM
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28. Exactly. No falling on his sword for the prince of darkness. eom
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:39 AM
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11. He did?
It ain't over 'til it's over.

--p!
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:44 AM
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12. Unless he's been suspected of have committed...
... either perjury or obstruction of justice, he skates. The identities protection act only punishes the leaker, not the leakee.

Novak is not the sort to lie for this bunch--his ass counts most to him. He's a right-wing asshole, but he's not a true believer.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:03 AM
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16. The 1917 Espionage Act is a little harsher
when it comes to treason.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:14 AM
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19. There's been no evidence that will be invoked...
... so we'll just have to wait and see.

But, from everything presented so far, Novak has skated.

He's the current version of Westbrook Pegler, but that's not evidence he broke the law.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:14 AM
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18. Well, see, it's because...
of his big teeth. Everyone is scared of them.

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BIG Sean Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:46 AM
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20. Then it becomes more of a 1st Admentment issue
Hi,

This is just a guess, but I think Mr Fitzgereld focus more on the reporters that did NOT use the name in the article, rather than the one that did, was to do away with an appearance that he was destroying the first admentment.

Just a guess though.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 05:15 AM
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24. He rolled over!
Couldn't take the heat!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 07:30 AM
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25. Novak would sell out his family for a bagel
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:34 PM
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27. Two things.
When Fitz went before the judge to seek contempt against Miller, he told the judge he was about to wrap up but he wanted Cooper's and Miller's testimony. He wanted it bad enough to put her in jail, actually both of them.

Did he want it because of hearing about the notebook or did he want it because Novak and Miller might have been talking back and forth? Or both?

Does anybody know if Miller and Novak communicated? Think about it. Miller wrote the name "Flame" in a separate part of her notebook. It doesn't make sense to assume she was sitting face to face with someone and made such a spelling error. You would normally be looking at the person. Therefore ipso fatso, it leaves only the phone. And it had to be someone who, to say the least didn't speak with clear diction.

Who more than Novak would fit in that category? He blathered and drooled all over the desk when he was in CrossFire. And he had lovers nuts over Bush every day.

Judy hand planted by Rumsfeld and Libby----Novak conveniently outing the person involved in investigating what she was there to find makes a nice little circle. Don't you think?
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