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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:53 AM
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Lysistrata and Elizabeth I.
"Observe, Lord George; I am married..............to America."
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:20 AM
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1. Intriguing Literary References
Lysistrata (if I recall correctly) is the story of the Athenian women withholding sex from their husbands until they end the war with Sparta.

Elizabeth I was, well, Elizabeth I. Apparently she withheld sex from everyone, particularly Philip of Spain.

Your point? (Don't disappoint me here -- your juxtaposition is fascinating.)

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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:34 PM
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2. The Lysistrata reference
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 12:34 PM by lildreamer316
has been popping up for a few days here so I just thought I would tie it in to Elizabeth (my memory being sparked by the showing of the movie on Bravo this evening--I know it is a dramatization, love it anyway; just finished the biography Elizabeth by David Starkey).
The connection to me is that Elizabeth did the Lysistratian thing (in a way) for political reasons; as we should do in principal also (stop having mental sex with the oppressor/dominators for the good of our country)
Eh; I'm a weirdo.


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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:38 PM
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3. Actually, from what I've read...
Elizabeth I was the "Virgin Queen" out of medical necessity; she had what's called an imperforate cartilaginous hymen. The vaginal opening didn't fully develop, and it wasn't within 17th century medical competence to do anything about it. One of her physicians, I think, wrote that she "only possessed the smaller opening through which she passed water". She was able to use it to great politrical advantage, though, and turn Britain intro one of Europe's foremost powers; but there was more to it than just politics.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:42 PM
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4. Hmmm!
Well! Learn something new every day! The concept still works though. I think it was still a brilliant political move; and one we should take lessons from in theory.

(Just for evil fun I think it would make a great feature stripper name--Lysistrata)
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:25 PM
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5. Hehe.
I've thought I'd name a daughter that, if I ever had one. (Or maybe Lilith.)
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