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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 11:30 PM
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If Clinton was still president, the world would be much safer!
Edited on Tue Oct-18-05 11:40 PM by glarius
Ask the citizens of other countries what they think about Clinton.
He is welcomed with affection and respect everywhere in the world he goes...we are able to see him as the effective president he was, despite the Monica thing. He often comes up here where we always give him a great welcome...He acts like an American citizen yes, but also a citizen of the world.
He is in Canada right now making speeches and having questions and answer sessions in a few cities across our country....He was in London, Ontario last night and I watched his speech live....My God, the man is so intelligent and INFORMED ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD!...He is aware of what is happening in Canada, with regards to our decisions to not go to war in Iraq and not to join the Bushies anti-ballistic missile system...He said he agrees with our decision on the anti-ballistic missile, and that it won't work, by the way....He said so much about how all countries and people have to talk to each other and learn to co-operate instead of one nation trying to force it's will on others....HOW I WISH, FOR THE SAKE OF THE WORLD, HE WA STILL YOUR PRESIDENT! :loveya:
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 11:31 PM
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1. I wish he was still our president, too.
You can't imagine how much.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 11:52 PM
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2. Ask the citizens of America what they think about Clinton
His popularity remains high. He was a beloved President and still is well thought-of (even while he's been whoring himself to Poppy Bush).

In fact, Al Gore should still be our President.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:57 AM
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3. Yes - he worked on it
People really don't appreciate the fact that the world was relatively calm during his presidency. He made it a goal to calm the fires, where bush throws gasoline on them.

But I have learned that there are many in this country who do not value peace. They value aggression and brute force - and being stupid. Look at Karen Huge's travels abroad.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:38 AM
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5. His vision of the world and the U.S.A's place in it is so different from
what Bush thinks...Listening to him talk, it seems to me that he sees the world as one big family....unlike Bush who sees the U.S.A as dominant and the rest of us must fit into the picture the best way we can as long as we do America's bidding....
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 04:00 AM
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6. Bush sees his class (including all wealthy non-Americans) as his "family"
It should be obvious by FEMA's response to the southern hurricanes what his attitude is toward the rest of us.
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YapiYapo Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:17 AM
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7. Rwanda...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide

I'm not saying clinton wasn't a good president but still saying the world was calm when million of people where killed by a genocide show absolutly no respect for these people.

"This failure to act became the focus of bitter recriminations towards individual policymakers specifically, such as Jacques-Roger Booh-Booh, as well as the United Nations and countries such as France and the United States more generally and President Clinton specifically. Clinton was kept informed on a daily basis by his closest advisors and by the U.S. Embassy of Rwanda. Clinton was also advised by others close to him to "stay out of Rwanda" because of the possible political backlash similar to that which occurred just a year earlier in a failed attempt to help the country of Somalia."
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:46 AM
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8. I did not forget that
He failed on Rwanda for sure and he has admitted as much. This was an instance where force was called for.
I do not lack respect for the people who suffered and died there and am ashamed my country did not act. You may not believe this but that event haunts me to this day.

What I am referring to is the tone of his administration and the effect it had on much of the world community. He worked hard on bringing together people who had ages of hatred between them. Can you imagine bush extending himself the way Clinton did? The image he projected into the world was not one of a bully but one of seeking common ground.

Today there are countries all over the world that are seething with anger at the way the US is treating them. Are they going to go to war against us? No but there is more unrest inside these countries from people who resent being pushed around.
The Middle East - South America - Central America - Mexico and more. Clinton had a better understanding of that.
He did make a mistake about Rwanda though.
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YapiYapo Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 06:21 AM
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11. Thanks for clarification
I'm glad it wasn't your point and you can admit when someone did a mistake.

Of course no doubt clinton understanding of the world situation is light year better than bush :)
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:42 PM
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15. Thanks

:-)
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maximovich Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 04:27 PM
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18. Buh Bye Delay! (nt)
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:21 AM
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4. I agree. Every time I listened to him speak on some forum, it brought
tears, because I think he is a real statesman, with true visions. Someone who does not need anyone to coach him for every question or appearance. I still have a hard time understanding the people who voted * into office.
What a difference it would have made had we still someone of Clinton's intellect and sincerity. But then again, it was Clinton's own doing that turned certain people away and towards someone like *.
I think this country needs another political party or two, before it can go into the right direction. Unfortunately at this stage, another Clinton-type leader won't be enough to undo the damage of *.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:50 AM
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9. There is still hope for the world as far as Clinton is concerned. Sec. of
State under Wesley Clark, John Kerry or Hillary.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 06:36 AM
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12. yes.......n/t
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:01 AM
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13. The world was still a dangerous place when Clinton was Pres.
But he actually DID something about it. When we were attacked, the perpetrators were caught, tried & convicted in a court of law. Their supporters abroad were bombed and had their financial assets frozen or seized.

And Clinton did all this without starting any wars, without shredding the Constitution, without torturing people, and without turning America into an economic basket case.

All of our current problems - including the attacks of 9/11 - are traced directly to Bush's policies of ignorance and neglect.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 09:43 AM
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14. Years ago, when Clinton was first running for president, when we didn't
know much about him, I heard Hillary say something that I think is very important....Someone (I don't remember who) was interviewing her and asked her what had impressed her about him, or what she liked about him....I remember she said "he has a big heart."....I think, along with his great mind, that is what makes him a great leader....IMO...
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:56 PM
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16. He did like those economic sanctions though
They never hurt anyone but the people of Iraq. But Albright said it was worth it, so...I guess that makes it ok.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 04:12 PM
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17. And we'd each have a little more change in our pockets (n/t)
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