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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:29 AM
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Republicans becoming like Soviets
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 12:38 AM by KingFlorez
Checklist:

Want domination of the media for propaganda
Critical of any dissent
Elistism in the party
Bullying or attempts at other nations
Excessive military defense
Autocracy
Extremely odd statements by elected officials (i.e. Santorum, Tancredo)
Using foul language at public officials (i.e. Cheney, OR. House Spkr. Karen Minnis)
Desire for unchecked powers
No respect for, or abolishment of rules and ethics
Criminal acts by leaders

Stalin would be proud

Feel free to add
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:30 AM
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1. i think they are critical of all things decent
as well as critical of dissent ;)
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:39 AM
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4. Oops, was typing kinda fast
Fixed it
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:31 AM
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2. Many of the neo cons were proud trotskytes
they bruoght some traits over... and yes Stalin woudl be proud until he found out they were trotskytes, he hated Leo
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:36 AM
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3. They're worse than the Soviets.
The Soviets rose from a monarchy that was no doubt unjust and corrupt. Initially, the premise was to improve the lot of those who were oppressed, but that premise was corrupted in practice.

The BushCo crooks arose from a free and just nation, and their intent is to corrupt a decent nation founded on law and civil rights for their own personal gain.

No comparison - except that dictators lust for power from within every nation. It's our obligation as citizens to oppose them.

I've never agreed with Jefferson's views on revolution at every turn, but with this administration I'm starting to clearly understand where Jefferson got his views. A truly bad government can cause unimaginable public pain. If I had as many years of BushCo as Jefferson had of Royal tyranny, I might be espousing revolution at every turn. It's just sad that our elected officials have lost all respect for the lessons learned by our founding fathers that led to our form of government in the first place.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:15 AM
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7. Good of you to point out the difference with our gov and the
monarch. Also, Jefferson was right.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:45 AM
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5. Bankrupting The Country with Military Spending
which is much worse than just being excessive.

Sending opponents off to camps.
Rigging elections.
Corrupting "free markets".
Creating huge private police force, aka mercenaries.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:45 AM
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6. Ronnie 'gipper' reagan
helped this take root surely.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:16 AM
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8. Y'all need to catch up
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:19 AM
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9. Since the Federalists passed the Alien and Sedition Acts ...
... we have always had a wing of the country intent on getting power, silencing opposition, and tramplign liberties in the name of their agenda.

They get surpressed, then they make a return.


they'll do anything to get their way, as shown here
http://www.webcomicsnation.com/neillisst
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:21 AM
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10. this was noted a while ago

Grover Norquist has a picture of Lenin hanging in his office.

The Republican internal propaganda dissemination network, from the Manhattan think tanks where interns (with overseers) work overnights to come up with adequate spin on the day's news which then gets faxed out to the Ann Coulters and Rush Limbaughs of the land before 7 AM, has been widely termed 'the Conintern'. (The Communist Internationale- Comintern- was Stalin's organization that disseminated the Party Line to all the non-Soviet communist parties worldwide; nonadherence to the Party Line was...not an option worth contemplating.)

If you look at the Movement books, e.g. Pat Buchanan's, they outline the nefarious schemes of their opponents in exacting detail. Say, Gramsci's infiltration and subversion of The Institutions. In the books they merely comment on it as "the liberals or Left have to be prevented from doing this by concerted Right and conservative action." The next day you see a secondhand report of Billy Kristol saying something straight out of Gramsci, or Lenin, or Marx. David Horowitz is the funniest example of the genre.

Basically, the Right realized from the Communist scare in the Fifties that the methods adopted by the Communists worked very nicely in American society...and in fact, the Solid South elites and the Gilded Age plutocracy and its offspring (say, William Randolph Hearst) and the likes of J. Edgar Hoover had used less intellectually worked-out, less systematic versions of them.

And yes, the Radical Right have been using the methods against our side and some of their own for years. But they didn't understand the extent to which the electorate has also used them- and used them up- while they exploited it. Right now is when their methods pretty much all break down: The People wins the contest, after all, by the simplest of methods- just en masse refusal to comply and grabbing away their last little bits of bait.

Two years from now we're going to be ridiculing the lot of them and the imploded, wrecked, Party they commandeered. But somebody had to rudely and fully exploit all the residual totalitarianism and slavishness of average Americans, destroying it.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:10 AM
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11. I was stating ths four years ago. ;-(
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