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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:55 AM
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Mt. Diablo Keeps Name Despite Religious Objection

http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_287161537.html


WALNUT CREEK Federal officials have rejected a request to change the name of Mount Diablo after receiving complaints that it was offensive to some religions.

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The agency also denied the request of a Marin County couple seeking to change the peak's name to Mount Ohlone and Mount Miwok after two local indigenous tribes.

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The name Mount Diablo comes from a name Spanish soldiers assigned to an indigenous village set near a thicket near modern-day Concord. Soldiers said a group of American Indians escaped an 1805 military campaign with the help of evil spirits.

They called the site "Monte del Diablo," or thicket of the devil, and American explorers later mistakenly applied the name to the mountain itself, historians said.
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we need some of that "native spirit" to put the bushgang IN prison.

(I've never liked the word 'indigenous'. it means so much more then stated)
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:57 AM
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1. Which religions
Edited on Mon Oct-17-05 11:57 AM by YOY
Born again wackos and bible beating evangelists?
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goose4739 Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:58 AM
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2. Uh-oh, then we have to change...
"Deviled ham" to "alternate religion meat product" and deviled eggs to "blessed whipped ovum."

These people are so fucking crazy.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:05 PM
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7. Furthermore, New Jersey professional hockey will never be the same.
:evilgrin: "The New Jersey Cherubs" just can't work.
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Shadowen Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:38 PM
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14. I dunno.
Cherubim, in Christian Mythology, are actually pretty badass.

But if they want unequivocal badassitude, they could go with Seraphim.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:47 PM
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15. They'll have to change the whole folk lore down in the pine barrens
"No more stories about Devils, let alone the New Jersey Devil"-the namesake of the team. In fact tell the authors of Wierd New Jersey to retract to whole thing, nothing but bible stories from now on.

:P
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:21 PM
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10. One fundagelical wacko.
The online article makes it sound like a movement. The man quoted, Mijares, gets press every few years with his efforts to remove the name of the devil from this area. He tried to get a local school district to change the name of the high school a few years ago. He apparently learned from this failure and now tries to emphasize returning to the Indian name for the landmark and downplays the religious angle.

Mt. Diablo overlooks the Diablo Valley. There are several schools with 'Diablo' as part of the name and many streets and businesses. Poor man sees the devil's name everywhere.

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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:50 PM
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17. So, maybe I'm being dense, but why doesn't he MOVE?
Like, to Los Angeles, or Santa Barbara, or Los Cruces or Trinidad or something? You'd think he'd figure out that he'd want to be someplace blessed with a holy name instead of cursed with a demonic one, right?

Hell, I'll contribute to his moving fund.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 01:23 PM
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19. Dunno, mebbe he's a Blues Brother
As in, he's "on a mission from God?" We wouldn't need to move him that far away. Santa Rosa, Santa Cruz, St. Helena, and San Carlos are some of the choices nearby and none have a view of the Devil Mountain.

I just wish the press would ignore him. He's had his 15 minutes of fame.

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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:27 PM
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11. Devil worshippers, obviously
Mount Diablo is not tall and majestic enough to be worthy of the prince of darkness
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:32 PM
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13. Good enough for "Poltergeist"
The first time I ever went to California was a couple of days after seeing "Poltergeist" in the theater.

We flew into Oakland International, and my mom's friend from Walnut Creek picked us up and drove us to her house. I kept looking at the mountains in the distance, saying that I knew I'd seen them somewhere before. A couple of days later, we picked up her son from camp and I made the same comment around him. He said "Did you see Poltergeist? They shot the movie over there" and pointed to Mt. Diablo.
Sure enough, that was the landscape from the movie.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:21 PM
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23. A poltergeist is merely a human spirit returned to haunt the living
The true Prince of Darkness needs a Mount Whitney sized monument.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:59 AM
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3. I find some religions offensive.
Can I change their names?
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:02 PM
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5. good one
nt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:01 PM
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4. On the other hand, "Fuck Jehovah Canyon" will be renamed.
x(
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:20 PM
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9. Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!! That's worth a pie!
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:03 PM
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6. The bible specifically condemns Montana a la diabla so it must
be true :sarcasm:

you know that red guy with the pitch fork, he dances on mountain tops.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:17 PM
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8. "Cover the kids' eyes, Harriet"
"We're driving through the Grand Tetons."
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:31 PM
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12. I used to go rock climbing in Northern Arizona
and there are rocks named "Big Bertha's boobs" and "Dynamite Crack".
Good thing he doesn't live there...the man might stroke.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:54 PM
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18. Not to mention the Grand Tetons!
Probably named by lonely French explorers.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 01:26 PM
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20. Arizona? Can't be.
She's in Maryland.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:48 PM
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16. Cheezus!! How many times a year does this come up? I've seen it
on my local news about 3 times already just this year alone. The name isn't changing faux pious people---get over it.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 01:30 PM
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21. Just cut to the chase and demand that it be renamed Mt. Reagan
Henceforth, by the king's decree, all geographic features, military facilities, and public buildings shall bear the surname of St. Ronald.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 01:32 PM
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22. Traveling over the western US for most of my life, there
are so many places that have the names Diablo, Devil and Hell in them that it would cause map makers to make a major redo.
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