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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:23 AM
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Rightwinger Dobson Brags About Beating His Dachshund With a Belt
The following is an excerpt from "Christian" rightwinger Dobson's book entitled "The Strong Willed Child". He explains how his beating of his dachshund Siggie with a belt provides lessons on how to raise children. This is the first person Karl Rove went to when he needed to justify the Miers nomination.

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"Siggie is a member of our family and we love him dearly...we had some classic battles before he reluctantly yielded to my authority... I told Siggie to go get into his bed, which is a permanent enclosure in the family room. For six years I had given him that order at the end of each day, and for six years Siggie had obeyed.

"On this occasion, however, he refused to budge. You see, he was in the bathroom, seated comfortably on the furry lid of the toilet seat. That is his favorite spot in the house, because it allows him to bask in the warmth of a nearby electric heater..."

"When I told Sigmund to leave his warm seat and go to bed, he flattened his ears and slowly turned his head toward me. He deliberately braced himself by placing one paw on the edge of the furry lid, then hunched his shoulders, raised his lips to reveal the molars on both sides, and uttered his most threatening growl. That was Siggie's way of saying. "Get lost!"

"I had seen this defiant mood before, and knew there was only one way to deal with it. The ONLY way to make Siggie obey is to threaten him with destruction. Nothing else works. I turned and went to my closet and got a small belt to help me "reason" with Mr. Freud."

What developed next is impossible to describe. That tiny dog and I had the most vicious fight ever staged between man and beast. I fought him up one wall and down the other, with both of us scratching and clawing and growling and swinging the belt. I am embarrassed by the memory of the entire scene. Inch by inch I moved him toward the family room and his bed. As a final desperate maneuver, Siggie backed into the corner for one last snarling stand. I eventually got him to bed, only because I outweighed him 200 to 12!"

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Beating a dog with a belt is heinous enough, but actually putting this in a book about raising children? This guy has some serious issues.

This dog wasn't doing anything dangerous or destructive. The only thing this dachshund was doing was laying in a comfortable place that was near some warmth. Maybe the dog needed that warmth instead of arthritis. Instead, the guy BRAGS about how he attacked the dog for some period of time."

Sick.

"There are some people who need to keep reminding you that they are a Christian, because you would have no other way of knowing based upon their actions." - Chromsky

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zorro349 Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:27 AM
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1. what a sick person
"...with both of us scratching and clawing and growling and swinging the belt."

Actually, no, Mr. Dobson: YOU were the only one swinging the belt.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:30 AM
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2. Chromsky was right, I think
Dobson has a strange concept of how to get others to obey. The Prince of Peace, I believe, would have used love and gentle words to get the dog to go to bed.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:32 AM
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3. what a prick
I am totally filled with revulsion. That is one of the evilest things I have ever heard of.

This is another one of those "Men of God", I'll pass on his God for sure.
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:33 AM
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4. Dobson was perfectly correct to beat his dog ...
... He was just following the Biblical instructions God gave us to "have dominion over every living thing."

And you know if you have dominion, you're at the top of the pecking order so you can beat all lesser beings with impunity ... or so I'm sure his sick, twisted reasoning goes.

I'd like to think Dobson has at least one redeeming quality, but I've thus far seen no evidence of it.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:36 AM
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5. I've always thought that how a person treats animals says so much
about what kind of person they are. Used to be, people who abused animals were seen as sick and disturbed. In BushUSA, with a pres. who blew up frogs, and Cat Killer Frist in the Senate, it's becoming a new "norm." * still laughs about the frogs he killed, and Dobson makes beating a small dachsund sound like running with the bulls. I hope these twisted freaks get everything karma's holding for them, and soon.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:37 AM
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6. I hope the evil dog bites his dick off next time.
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:41 AM
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8. ...and buries it in the BACK YARD.
I'm feelin' EEEVIL today.
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:40 AM
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7. Jeebus, Siggy's a freaking DACHSHUND.... pick him up and CARRY him...!
I doubt if Dobson would have tried any of this sick shit if Siggy was a g*ddamn Presa Canario, hmmmm?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:43 AM
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26. That's waht I thought. A good NO and carry him off.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:41 AM
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9. Spare the belt and spoil the wiener.
Corporal punishment is not only legal in some places in the US it was institutionalized in parts of Arkansas as recently as 2002.

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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:52 AM
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14. Revenge of the Weiner Dogs.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:44 AM
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10. This violent excuse for a waste of skin belongs in prison
not walking the streets, let alone influencing the most powerful men in the world!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:46 AM
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11. "Loves him dearly." Well ok then. So "loving the sinner but hating the
sin" means it is ok to use your power to beat a defenseless little dog. Good to know where the "doctor" stands.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:48 AM
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12. Does he beat his "dearly beloved" wife also? Or is her will already
broken so he doesn't need to?
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:50 AM
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13. Too bad the dog wasn't a Rotweiller
or some such animal that would have kicked his pathetic ass. Instead he goes after something small and less able to defend itself, just like these asshole reptiles going after the old and disabled.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:54 AM
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15. Siggie is probably getting arthritis in his old age and can't tolerate
any other room but the one with the heater. Maybe Doobie should stop and listen, instead of demanding everyone to be miserable around him.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:55 AM
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16. This is disgusting. I have a little mini dachschund and would
never hit her. She is so subservient by personality, she rolls over and shows her belly to just about anyone. Her little tail wags 24/7 and I like to think it is because she is happy that she lives with us.

We love her and would never, ever hurt her. What he is describing is not love. It is power.

What a sick, disgusting 'person' he is. I hope he rots in hell. When he does pass, I am sure St. Francis will have some 'words' for him.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:00 AM
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17. this was probably not the first time the dog was abused. I adopted
Edited on Mon Oct-17-05 10:02 AM by mod mom
a one year old dog years ago that turned out to have serious "issues". She had severe dominance aggression, separation anxiety and allergies that needed allergy shots. She became very upset whenever she say a man with facial hair or a hat on.

My husband came home one day to find a new architecture book that a friend had just brought him back from Finland totally destroyed. His reaction was to scream at the dog and throw the book at her. The dog bit him. ( Aggression leads to aggression.) I was told I had to choose either him or the dog.

I knew she would be put to sleep, and I had become attached to the dog. At the time we were childless so I spent 2 years working with a dog behaviorist at a nearby university. My dog had been abused before. I had to get the upper hand with her (especially since she was 65 lbs.) but instead of violence, I was instructed to grab the skin in the back of her neck (like a mother dog does) and secure her muzzle shut with the other hand, while taking my weight, lay on top of her and stare into her eyes until diverted her eyes twice.

Over time she relinguished authority to me as and I became the Alpha. She became the most loyal and loving dog one could imagine. She had a wonderful life with us-on weekdays she was a city dog, but on weekends she was a free range country dog at our (then) weekend home on 11 wooded acres with a 2 acre pond surrounded by corn fields. She would be gone for hours only to come back filthy and needed a bath everynight. She slept like a baby at night next to the side of my bed. when my children were born, she guarded them as her own. If someone bent down to look in the stoller, her nose would be between the person and the baby.

Sorry...long story but a cherished memory. My point is a dog, as well as children of course, do not need physical abuse to change behavior. Mr Dobson has some serious problems!
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:25 AM
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22. You are a treasure! The world needs fewer Dobsons & more mod moms. n/t
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:04 AM
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18. Anyone that hits their dog for any reason, IMHO, is an effin' piece
of shit. I have always thought that of this scumbag...and now he has confirmed my feelings.

Oh...he is a big man...beating up a 12 pound dog with a belt.

This makes me sick.

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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:05 AM
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19. This fundie christian role model abuses his dog and probably his......
wife and children. The dog (Siggie) hates Dobson's guts and the asshole is so arrogant that he can't even see it. The way a person treats animals says a lot about who they are. In this case, we have learned Dobson has NO HEART AND NO SOUL.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:16 AM
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20. I thought there were laws against animal abuse
This article should be forwarded to the ASPCA
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:24 AM
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21. Somebody ought to file a complaint with the SPCA
or the local Animal Control where Dobson lives. Show them the excerpt from the book and insist they investigate living conditions for any animals in Dobson's house.

What a POS this jerk is. Big man. Beating a 12 lb. dog because it doesn't want to leave a warm spot.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:31 AM
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23. That prick will get his comeuppance, when...
...he meets the hounds of Hell.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:35 AM
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24. how about picking the dog up,
depositing him in the hall, and closing the bathroom door? THEN tell him to go to his bed.

Problem solved without beating the tiny doggie.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:41 AM
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25. More Discussion of this Story
Here's some more discussion of this story by others, many of whom comment upon how this incident relates to Dobson's neo-Nazi parenting approach:

http://www.nospank.net/dugan.htm

http://www.idyllopuspress.com/meanwhile/?p=100

http://corrente.blogspot.com/2005/04/james-dobson-puppy...

Excerpt:

"I pray that little Siggie ... will rise up and take it upon himself to sink his God given fangs into Dominion Master Jim-Dob's sagging nutsack, shake vigorously, and ultimately bury the impotent screeching old bag beneath a thorny shrub for all eternity....Dear God, please give little Siggie the incisor strength to defeat the screeching Dobson, the PUPPY BEATING ANTI-CHRIST. Amen. God afterall is just Dog spelled backwards."

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/08/08/073923.php

Excerpt:

"And to think, perhaps he could have just picked the tiny dog and moved him to his bed. Nah! Much better to go get the belt and prove a point to Siggie. He'll be damned if that 12 pound dog gets the better of him. And heck, if it works on Siggie, its good for your child too. Excellent reasoning, Mr. Dobson. Excellent!

For guys like James Dobson, if you don't obey what he wants, you are an enemy of "God's people". Don't believe me? Well, James Dobson called Senator Patrick Leahy an "enemy of God's people". Yup, because Senator Leahy has (thankfully) opposed many of Mr. Dobson's 'thought police' measures, Dobson branded Senator Leahy an enemy of "God's people". I guess that means that Mr. Dobson believes that he is at the head of "God's people".



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