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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 10:55 PM
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For your history of Judith Miller's headline lies bringing us to war.
1. December 20, 2001, Headline,
"Iraqi Tells of Renovations at Sites For Chemical and Nuclear Arms".

Miller rolls out a new Iraqi defector, in the ripe tradition of her favorite, Khidir Hamza, the utter fraud who called himself Saddam's Bombmaker.

2. September 7, 2002: Headline:
"US says Hussein intensifies quest for a-bomb parts".

This one was by Miller and Michael Gordon, promoting the aluminum tube nonsense:

3.September 13, 2002, headline:
"White House Lists Iraq Steps To Build Banned Weapons".

Miller and Gordon again, taking at face value the administration's claims that it was "the intelligence agencies' unanimous view that the type of tubes that Iraq has been seeking are used to make such centrifuges."

4.December 3, 2002, a Miller Special, murky with unidentified informants:
"C.I.A. Hunts Iraq Tie to Soviet Smallpox".

Classic Miller: "The C.I.A. is investigating an informant's accusation that Iraq obtained a particularly virulent strain of smallpox from a Russian scientist who worked in a smallpox lab in Moscow during Soviet times"

5. January 24, 2003:
"Defectors Bolster U.S. Case Against Iraq, Officials Say".

Another Miller onslaught on the UN inspectors:

"Former Iraqi scientists, military officers and contractors have provided American intelligence agencies with a portrait of Saddam Hussein's secret programs to develop and conceal chemical, biological and nuclear weapons that is starkly at odds with the findings so far of the United Nations weapons inspectors."

6.
We'll leave al-Haideri in well-earned retirement and Miller heading towards her supreme triumph of April 20, 2003, relaying the allegations of chemical and bio-weapon dumps made by an unnamed Iraqi scientist she'd never met.

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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 10:57 PM
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1. As I said elsewhere, the NY Times has never looked worse.
This is a huge blow to the paper's prestige and honor.

I will never read that paper the same way again.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:03 PM
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3. Kind of amazing that this is the same newspaper which...
... printed excerpts of the Pentagon Papers, and revealed Nixon's secret bombing campaign in Laos and Cambodia.

But, the Times Co. has benefitted from de-regulation of the media, just like other corporations. They certainly don't want that Bush & Co. gravy train to be upset by a little truth.

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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:12 PM
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6. The same paper
that swore to a housecleaning and resetting of priorities after the Jayson Blair fiasco just a couple of years ago. That hired Daniel Okrent for the new position of "public editor", who had little to say about Miller during his tenure, but chose to crap all over Krugman in his exit column. They've been strictly amateur hour through the entire Bush reign.
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scarlett1 Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:44 PM
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23. Yes, this does remind me of the Jayson Blair
incident.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:12 PM
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7. It shows how far our country has fallen.
The Press is all just Fox News now. There no longer is a fourth estate.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:05 PM
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5. She is an agent for this regime.
in addition she tipped a Islamic fundamentalist group of a on-going investigation into money laundering

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:36 PM
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18. And that was another Fitzgerald probe, no less
Those two have more than a bit of history together. It's no wonder he was OK with letting her sit in jail...
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:13 AM
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16. Correct. Whoever is in charge needs to terminate Miller and Keller
and anyone else involved.

I remember reading the NY Times supplement in the Gainesville Sun whilst a student at University of Florida in the late 60's and early 70's and during Watergate. They were top notch.

Now, I have ZERO respect for them.
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:49 PM
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22. Nice idea, but Sulzberger Jr (owner) is very attached to Judy.
Edited on Mon Oct-17-05 02:50 PM by gulfcoastliberal
Rumor has it they fucked when they both worked at the Washington bureau when Sulzberger's family made him work on the "shop floor" to learn the trade:

So why did it take so long to run an editors note? In the newsroom, there are several theories. The first, and least persuasive, is the Sulzberger factor. There was always the sense, true or not, that she had a benefactor at the top, says Seth Faison. When Miller joined the Times in the late seventies, she arrived in the Washington bureau at about the same time as Arthur Sulzberger Jr.a recent college graduate getting hands-on experience in the shop floor of the family business. The D.C. office had only about half a dozen reporters under the age of 35, including Sulzberger, Miller, Steve Rattner, and Phil Taubman. They clung to one another

Read the entire salacious article by Steve Giliard here:

http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/2004_05_01_stevegilli...
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 04:32 PM
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24. Not only each other but the nation at whole
good article.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:01 PM
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2. May 2004
Her reaction to a reporter when questioned about #6:
"You know what," she offered angrily. "I was proved fucking right. That's what happened. People who disagreed with me were saying, 'There she goes again.' But I was proved fucking right."

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/05/27/times/inde...
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:04 PM
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4. It all reads like Pravda. I'd read the NYT without
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 11:04 PM by niallmac
wonderiing what they were up to if they would change their name to PRAVDA! "UnFair, Biased,Government Shills." NYT, you made a bad decision to back the war machine.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:03 AM
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8. Recommended for refreshing memories. Judy is a liar & a traitor
and the NYT is complicit.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:03 AM
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9. dupe. nm
Edited on Mon Oct-17-05 12:04 AM by texpatriot2004
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:45 AM
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10. She was MISS WMD in the build up to the war. Someone ...
Someone was feeding her information, and in the world of journalism, you don't get access and inside info unless you carry water for them.

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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 08:40 AM
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11. I don't think she was carrying water, it was more like
gasoline
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 08:46 AM
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12. She's an awful hack and i think she was manipulated by Buschco
They played to her vanity and like a vain, self centered shallow moster she took the bait.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 08:51 AM
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13. You don't think she was an agent? It seems she manipulated information
and created false news and individuals who she never met, and besides the aspens
are turning this fall. She had security clearance.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:02 AM
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14. Shitty Spy/ Shitty Writer/ Shitty Shallow Shitdustbag
Hey sweet Judy WMD Eyes...the aspens are turning and they are about to cluster right up your arsehole! Enjoy the poke ya BITCH!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 09:03 AM
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15. I don't really know but i think they new if they played to her vanity she
would do their bidding. I was reading in the NYT yesterday that one her meetings with Libby was breakfast at a hotel and it was 2 hours long, WTF 2 hours? I always picture the source being on the other end of the phone for 5 minutes or maybe a quick meeting but 2 hours?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:39 PM
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19. Nonsense. Her entire career has been SPONSORED by neocons.
She's been a P/R flack for neocons from the start - round heels and all.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:30 PM
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17. Judy Miller is a liar and a traitor. She was peddling propaganda
she still is.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:41 PM
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20. she needs 2 B in jail......
oh, wait!
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:41 PM
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21. I hope she fries when the indictments come down.
She really deserves nothing less.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 05:05 PM
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25. MORE Miller articles of interest here ---
She was reporting articles under the titles, 'A Nation Challenged' and 'Traces of Terror' that began to dig into the reports that Bushco's terror response was inadequate.

Then starting August 2002, she suddenly started a new series, 'Threats and Responses' that started proclaiming Saddam's nuclear capabilities.

Could it be that she was hitting too close to the core so the Bushies promised to give her special privileged info in return for stopping her investigations?

Sounds kinda like there might be a deal with the devil in here somewhere.

Examples:
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A NATION CHALLENGED: THE RESPONSE; Planning for Terror but Failing to Act
December 30, 2001, Sunday
THIS ARTICLE WAS REPORTED BY JUDITH MILLER, JEFF GERTH AND DON VAN NATTA JR. AND WRITTEN BY MS. MILLER. (NYT); National Desk

A NATION CHALLENGED: LEADERSHIP; White House Wants Chief of Chemical Arms Group to Resign
March 20, 2002, Wednesday
By JUDITH MILLER (NYT); Foreign Desk
After the failure of weeks of quiet diplomacy, the Bush administration called today for the resignation of the director of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, the international organization charged with stopping the spread of chemical weapons. Richard A. Boucher, the State Department spokesman, said the administration...

TRACES OF TERROR: THE INTELLIGENCE REPORTS; In Years of Plots and Clues, Scope of Qaeda Eluded U.S.
June 9, 2002, Sunday
By JUDITH MILLER AND DON VAN NATTA JR. (NYT); National Desk
A re-examination of years of terrorist plots and attacks around the world, including the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, suggests that American intelligence agencies profoundly underestimated Al Qaeda's reach and aspirations for more than a decade as it grew from obscurity into a global terrorist threat, lawmakers and investigators...

Anthrax Vaccine Maker Calls Finances Shaky
By JUDITH MILLER
Published: August 5, 2002
The nation's sole producer of anthrax vaccine says it is in financial jeopardy because the Bush administration has failed to say how much vaccine it intends to buy, preventing it from selling vaccine to foreign and private customers at much higher prices.

U.S. Received Tip on Qaeda Threats Against Landmarks
August 13, 2002, Tuesday
By JUDITH MILLER (NYT); National Desk
High-ranking Bush administration officials said yesterday that the administration received a report from a foreign government in recent weeks about potential threats against such targets as the Brooklyn Bridge, the Golden Gate Bridge and a major landmark in Chicago. An F.B.I. spokesman cautioned that the reports were not specific,...

THREATS AND RESPONSES: THE IRAQIS; U.S. SAYS HUSSEIN INTENSIFIES QUEST FOR A-BOMB PARTS
By MICHAEL R. GORDON and JUDITH MILLER
Published: September 8, 2002
More than a decade after Saddam Hussein agreed to give up weapons of mass destruction, Iraq has stepped up its quest for nuclear weapons and has embarked on a worldwide hunt for materials to make an atomic bomb, Bush administration officials said today.

THREATS AND RESPONSES: BAGHDAD'S ARSENAL; White House Lists Iraq Steps To Build Banned Weapons
September 13, 2002, Friday
By JUDITH MILLER AND MICHAEL R. GORDON (NYT); Foreign Desk
Seeking to buttress the case for military action against Iraq, the Bush administration published a brief paper yesterday outlining what it says are efforts by Saddam Hussein to develop chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, and the missiles to deliver them. Some senior Democratic lawmakers have complained that the Central...
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 05:08 PM
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27. Thanks for moving your thread this is a great find also
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 05:11 PM
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28. Surpising switch from Investigative Reporter to Fear Monger ...
Exactly when the WHIG group was formed. Aug. 2002.

Hmmmm..
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Check12 Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 05:38 PM
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29. Judy in miltary uniform giving orders in Iraq???
From Talking points memo..

As Miller covered MET Alpha, it became increasingly clear that she had ceased to respect the boundaries between being an observer and a participant. And as an embedded reporter she went even further, several sources say. While traveling with MET Alpha, according to Pomeroy and one other witness, she wore a military uniform.

When Colonel Richard McPhee ordered MET Alpha to pull back from a search mission and regroup in the town of Talil, Miller disagreed vehemently with the decisionand let her opinions be loudly known. The Washington Posts Howard Kurtz reprinted a note in which she told public-affairs officers that she would write negatively about his decision if McPhee didnt back down. Whats more, Kurtz reported that Miller complained to her friend Major General David Petraeus. Even though McPhees unit fell outside the generals line of command, Petraeuss rank gave his recommendation serious heft. According to Kurtz, in an account that was later denied, McPhee rescinded his withdrawal order after Petraeus advised him to do so.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_10_...
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 10:20 PM
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31. kick
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 05:06 PM
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26. And this is why, I had no pity for Miller going to jail, and only hoped
they would throw away the key.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 06:11 PM
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30. Thanks for posting this info..nt
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Freedomfried Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 12:57 AM
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32. She's a fucking propagandist!
A pitiful, lying tool of a corrupt government.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 01:38 AM
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33. She is part of the "All lies, all the time", who could be surprised?
:shrug:

I will never get excited about some over-wrought news story. Even if some of the principles these stories go down the system that installed them will still be intact and functional for the players that run it.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 01:42 AM
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34. She has the blood on her hands of people who died in a war based on lies
Ooooo, but the access! the connections! the name recognition and career-building!



Yeah. I hope it was "worth it", Judy.

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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:59 AM
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35. I don't know why people with family members who got killed or maimed......
are not more outraged. Many a veteran spoke out against this fraud of a war. The time may come when all may need to speak a little louder
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