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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:03 AM
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Who wants to Petition the NYTimes to Fire Miller and Demand Transparency?
I've been thinking that we have the NY Times on the ropes in a way.. we already know that Miller will leave in some fashion now that she's got her million plus book deal, but the NY Times is COMPLICIT in faking a war, so are the rest of the Media..

BUT how about we combine the folks on say 100 blogs and the DU, get some heavies to sign (Conyers and all the rest of the Reps with SPINES) and HIT THEM HARD..

They are in a precarious situation, they have to carefully choose words, lawyers are combing every word that comes out of their paper.

Miller is now claiming, "Oh gosh, gee, My Bad.." etc, to attempt to gain some spin advantage in perception having already ridden the First Amendment Martyr Pony for as long as possible.

So they are screwed - they CAN'T provide Transparency - or they'll be deemed COMPLICIT, yet they must somehow reclaim credibility.

I think we can jerk their chain and make them an example for what they've done.

And to add to that petition we can state that whoever publishes her book will be subjected to a MASSIVE BOYCOTT by the same petitioners..

I would add that we should pressure anyone who's ever given her an award to TAKE IT BACK.

And let's go right on up the chain of command there at the NY Times and DEMAND the RESIGNATION of a LOT of those people.

AS far as I'm concerned they should be dragged to the Hague along with Bush for War Crimes, but we know that ain't gonna happen.

But we could sure as hell make LIFE HELL for them and maybe show them that the Blogs and American citizens with Brains are NOT going to stand for this kind of bullshit anymore. If we aren't allowed a Fairness Doctrine, then they should be held accountable with the only power we have left - our MONEY.

Let's slam them like Ghandi slammed the textile manufacturers, he brought them to their knees.

It's time for a serious re-adjustment and we need a focal point, and the NY Times is JUST THE ONE TO USE at this point in History.

Imagine a 1000 Blogs all in Lockstep, DEMANDING JUSTICE and Truth from the Media (even when we know they CAN'T Comply..)

Payback is a Motherf*cker, but look at how many have died for the lies that paper spread, and with full knowledge that Hans Blix said there were NO WMD, that Inspections WOULD have worked, that the International Atomic Energy folks said, "OBVIOUS FORGERIES", that MILLIONS Marched against this fake war..

They had options and many chances to tell both sides and they refused, so they need to be held accountable.

What do you think? Can we get the WHOLE WEB and BLOGS on our side, in Lockstep?

Would it work? There is nothing another news organization loves more than to TAKE OUT ANOTHER NEWS CHANNEL..

We can set their OWN JACKALS on THEM!

Ideas? Thoughts?
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:12 AM
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1. It is grotesque
that she is complicit in this whole thing, and works for a major newspaper, and they aren't cleaning up their own house.

They supposedly changed things some after the Jason Blair fiasco, but this seems even worse.

I would sign a petition.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:24 AM
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2. I think that it has potential
It is a good idea not to let them just brush this all aside, as they are apparently attempting to do. This St. Judith crap is really lame.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:26 AM
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3. Okay, that's two people so far
I think we can do it if we stop by the "RENT A MOB" store on the way :)

This will work.. This is what I like to call a "Rovian" Moment in time, where you HAVE them either way.. you can't LOSE..

it's TIME people, we can LYNCH the NYTIMES IN THE PUBLIC EYE - NOW!
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:34 AM
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4. sure! why not? but really, it's hopeless :((((
this is stupid. no one, and i mean NO FUKKING ONE, cares about the USA, not unless it's fulla jackbbooted boors marching around sig heiling a dingbat chimp-in-chief while waving the Wastica flag (formerly the Stars and Stripes)...
and the workers state, the dear old USSR (sigh) was killed for this!
expletive deleted
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:43 AM
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7. Look at the look on the face of Rove leaving
the Grand Jury and tell me it's HOPELESS.

He had flooded his Kevlar Depends :)

Someone, somehow rounded up the last group of minorities and women that weren't Federalist Nazis and got them in ONE ROOM..

Fitz did it, and THAT gives me hope..

Look at the trend, Frist, Delay, Rove, Libby.. POWER BROKERS, the ones who RUN the machine there..

this may actually BE a conspiracy, a conspiracy of Decent People demanding truth and justice..

and while the NY Times is DOWN, after having killed all those poor bastards for gain AND american troops..

I'M GOING TO KICK THEM IN THE TEETH.. Help me do it..
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 12:10 PM
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10. you don't understand....
your anger is good, but the old bs is just old bs...it's crap dressed in a baseball cap and strutting around like a friar among the hula dancers....there aint no 'mom's apple pie' duder, it's ALL storebought, and made in china. leno says bush unites 'conservatives' and 'liberals' using the cleaning lady! and amerka laffs, laffs its fukking arse off. You think 'truth will prevail' but that's a goddam i mean goddarn lie. Lies will prevail! There aint no jesus; never was, and he wasn't blonde (they never even had the tint in those days!) ...all our cliches are fulla bush shit. the early bird DON"T get the worm, hell he gets NOTHING!
Mind you, you young people maybe think the planet ought to survive. But like when the beggar said to Talleyrand "sir, i must live too" Talleyrand replied "i don't see the necessity"
(i assumed humanity would have colonised mars by now, flying cars, and an oldhippie president smoking thai weed with the elders of whatever trouble spot to sort it out; vast clean up projects dedicated to provide every human being with fresh water...and so on, but NOOOOOO! just the same old genghis khan crap that one would think we got tired of by turn of century...)
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 12:16 PM
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11. Okay
turn in your torch and pitchfork.. don't want you getting hurt when we storm the castle :)

My site alone FORCED CNN to put 750 words BACK into a Hans Blix Report in ONE AFTERNOON with the combined force of Web folks HAMMERING CNN with emails..

We cost Limbaugh probably at least a Million bucks when everyone joined us in a Boycott and RadioShak, See's Candies, RedLobster, Geico, and MANY other biz's WALKED on the guy, about 13 of them in ONE AFTERNOON..

I was on the O'Reilly show within three days..

It works and I know how to do it.. so lead, follow, or get out of the way, no time for chit chat, this is WAR...
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 12:30 PM
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12. now, war i understand.
but why can't someone punch owhorely, or john gibson, or laura ingam, or even rush limbah? they are all hate, all da time, yet ...
Anyway, like Che Guevera once said 'let's roll!"
:)
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:34 AM
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5. I also would like people who are members of the SPJ -- and others -- to
protest the award! This is really a slap to the profession! Hope they see the light.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:36 AM
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6. Is the SPJ a legit journalist organization?
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 01:46 PM
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14. They are TOTALLY legit
What we need is a shame campaign - if the SPJ is dragged into the mud over the NYTimes, you better believe they'll do something - or say something at minimum.

Email campaign here would work.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:48 AM
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8. I wish someone would pressure the WP to release the torture pics
strange that they've gotten away with it so quietly.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 12:01 PM
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9. There's hope in numbers
If you can get Kos, Atrios, Josh Marshall, the guy from the Washington Note (can;t think of his name...), etc. and other big blogs to coordinate some kind of petition you'd have millions of signatures from just a handful of these big Liberal sites.
Who do you know? Start making calls if you do b/c it could be pulled together pretty quick and would draw MSM attention. I am a lowly drone who knows not a connected soul in the blogosphere, but I can add my name to the call for Miller's head!


:hi:
P.S I sent you a PM
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 01:41 PM
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13. This is exactly what I'm talking about
and it can happen FAST, and believe me, like you said, the MSM would be ALL over it..

Money Talks and Bullshit Walks.. the petition may be virtually meaningless, BUT, the very fact that say a Million or a half a million Wallets and Purses are involved WILL make these greedy bastards sit UP and take NOTICE..

YOu cut off the money and they will BEND OVER BACKWARDS..

FEAR, raw FEAR when the money goes away :)
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 11:49 PM
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15. a great idea
that needs to be kicked and nominated! Thanks!
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