I give you: The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy!

[bluedawg12]

Ladies and gents, here it is. What Hillary spoke of in cryptic terms and challenged the media to uncover. The VRWC.

The players are the same..just follow the money..always the same few billionaire familia's.

But I can only post snips- you really got to go to this web site- read this paper and sniff around this site. It is amazing stuff.

The question is how do we answer this?

Do we all start writing papers and books and hope that our individual voices will be heard?

Or do we get big money donors to fund think tanks to get the best and the brightest liberal minds to work on the worlds problems?

Or do we get steam rolled by the radicalright and the theocon and neocon right- think tank- communes?

Thoughts, ideas, comments, welcomed, as always.

If we do nothing we keep coming up short, and reactive, yesterday gay marriage and Iraq, today intelligent design, tomorow what- Syria and figting another wedge issue designed to split our country and keep them in money and power?

You know I am starting to think that any breath we take to discuss lameduck shrub is a waste of air, he is so over, they will dump him and prop up another mouth piece.

As dems and liberals we need to take the bull by the horn, or we can keep bending over for them while they call us weak on security and fond of quiche and psychobable, that is say they define us and they set the agenda we all react to.


http://rightweb.irc-online.org/rw/501

The Glue that Binds the Movement
By Michael Flynn | September 8, 2005


They are the glue that binds American conservatism—in all its flavors: neoconservative, libertarian, evangelical, triumphalist—into an effective political conglomeration. They fund the right’s magazines, the think tanks, the policy institutes, the writers, and the advocacy groups. They help spearhead public policy campaigns as well as idea networks. And they seem to never take their eye off the ball. They are the conservative foundations—the expansive trough of cash that nourishes much of the right-wing’s political infrastructure

They are also the envy of liberals and Democrats.
EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT

[linazelle]

1. The scariest part of this for me....

"The conservative foundations have been so successful, in fact, that one of their most important members, the John M. Olin Foundation, announced in May that it was closing down, claiming that most of its goals had been achieved."

They are so sure that they are permanently ingrained that they are withdrawing resources???!!!

WOW.

I feared that it would take a generation to undo what they have done, now I fear it's worse than I even imagined. God help us all if what we are experiencing is permanent.

[Mel]

2. it's why I tell 20 somethings

go to College get a degree to be a global worker so you can get out of here. I say plan for the worst fight and hope for the best. I figure, I have to stay due to $ and lack of a degree so I will stay and fight. Part of my fight is to warn people and yes I fear it is that bad.

The thing is even if I'm wrong my advice get a College degree (good) and if they go and see other countries (good) I think that should make them more open-minded to ideas and people.

[NewJeffCT]

7. start learning Mandarin Chinese

If you've been to Shanghai in the past few years, you've seen the future...

[linazelle]

25. My next door neighbor just got a degree--majored in Chinese and moved

there a few months ago. Boy is he on the right track for the future.

[bluedawg12]

10. Anbout education- the radicalright affilliated with Rev. fatwell

now has a law school for conserva-pigs. To get them out there to change laws and undo the socially progressive laws of the last 40 years.

There's also a school for journalists (RW of course).

[pretzel4gore]

3. remember 'nothing fails like success when working for the devil'

the right's very victory is its ultimate defeat....in a couple years, hardcore freepers will be frantically trying to stop fascism and arbitrary rule which, though it does hurt the poor, really needs to control and cow the rich and fat ie piggy himself, in order to prsper! And that often means jail and worse for the very dupes who tried so hard to help bush... lol
besides, it's not our world; the very success of the lying pig, and the complicity of the herd, plus knowing full well that the average person, though noble when poor, becomes a grasping freeper when he/she sees a bit of material wealth and feels a bit of exclusionary power.....
even the sweetest little kid on earth is PROBABLY just a grunting freeper pig, given time and fortunate circumstance. And bush leads the gadarene swine very goot, imho (lol)
goddam it all hahaha

[burythehatchet]

5. This is so true

Philosophically speaking, anything way of life that is based on an "end-game" is doomed to fail. It is the antithesis of sustainability and therefore cannot be sustained.

[bluedawg12]

12. End game politics- the PNAC way.

Perpetual war. Constant military growth for constant strife and hedgemoney.

[bluedawg12]

11. When will freepercreepers realize that old trotskyites

rae leading them?

They are being manipulated in a way they actually hate -socail engineering.

The right is more "PC" then the left ever was.

[pretzel4gore]

24. in a way, it's almost fun to watch!

the local racist knukkle draggers squirming in rage at their bush getting beat like the family mule when it's the very same people whom they hate who are manipulating them to be angry in the first place!
i cannot imagine how smart 10 year old kids are handling this, with the 'good guys' so patently awful, and the dems so outshouted and yet so much better(?) it's confusing enough to be a kid, but georgebushamerica is crazy! and proud of it!
:shrug:

[ComerPerro]

30. You are exactly right

It is hilarious to watch, in a sick, cynical way of framing things.

It amuses me to no end.

[bluedawg12]

37. ComerPerro

They are so Orwellian that it's almost sure to be the exact opposite of what they mean.

Clean sky's act?

How about: Polluted choked air act putting money in big oils pocket?

[bluedawg12]

36. the old neocommies smartly

learned to play them and push their buttons: gay's, guns and God in the name of anti-communism. heh heh so the old commies allied with the far right--hey, totalitarianism is OK as long "we are in charge."

[bluedawg12]

9. The RW has used tons of money and spent it well

their ideas are in in print media, on talk shows, and in the highest halls of government. But information is power and blogs are getting the truth out.

[unhappycamper]

4. bluedawg12:

Please be aware that DU copyright rules require that excerpts of copyrighted material be limited to four paragraphs and must include a link to the original source.

Thanks,

unhappycamper
DU Moderator

[bluedawg12]

13. Thank you for editing this I got carried away

appreciate the help on shortening this up - folsk can link right to the source.

Sorry for the inconveniece and I apprecate the vigilence-

best regards

bluedoggy

[tk2kewl]

6. For those who don't know: The 1971 Powell Memo was the blueprint

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/corporate_accountability/powell_memo_lewis.html

In 1971, Lewis F. Powell, then a corporate lawyer and member of the boards of 11 corporations, wrote a memo to his friend Eugene Sydnor, Jr., the Director of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. The memorandum was dated August 23, 1971, two months prior to Powell's nomination by President Nixon to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The Powell Memo did not become available to the public until long after his confirmation to the Court. It was leaked to Jack Anderson, a liberal syndicated columnist, who stirred interest in the document when he cited it as reason to doubt Powell's legal objectivity. Anderson cautioned that Powell "might use his position on the Supreme Court to put his ideas into practice...in behalf of business interests."

Though Powell's memo was not the sole influence, the Chamber and corporate activists took his advice to heart and began building a powerful array of institutions designed to shift public attitudes and beliefs over the course of years and decades. The memo influenced or inspired the creation of the Heritage Foundation, the Manhattan Institute, the Cato Institute, Citizens for a Sound Economy, Accuracy in Academe, and other powerful organizations. Their long-term focus began paying off handsomely in the 1980s, in coordination with the Reagan Administration's "hands-off business" philosophy.

Most notable about these institutions was their focus on education, shifting values, and movement-building – a focus we share, though usually with contrasting goals. One of our great frustrations is that “progressive” foundations and funders have failed to learn from the success of these corporate institutions and decline to fund the Democracy Movement that we and a number of similarly-focused organizations are attempting to build. Instead, they overwhelmingly focus on damage control, band-aids and short-term results which provide little hope of the systemic change we so desperately need to reverse the trend of growing corporate dominance.

Read Powell's original text here: http://reclaimdemocracy.org/corporate_accountability/powell_memo_lewis.html

[bluedawg12]

15. Well said, we are always reactive. They come up with some crazy

sh*t like ID and suddenly we are all defending natural selection and science while they mix religion and call upon "personal faith" and then smear science with pseudoscience babble.

They take the initiative and we simply man the barricades.

But the true neoconnivers are actually secularists and hold their elite noses when pandering to religion.

They are the ones against Harry-ette while the theocons love the idea of a Fundy--but the secularist old Trotskyites find her too light in the brain power department to trust her to innovate and legislate to the far right- she is merely a good foot soldier and not a General.

[tk2kewl]

16. Miers is getting slammed because she doesn't have the creds to

continue to implement Lewis Powell's plan. PERIOD

[ComerPerro]

31. OMFG. I read that memo at the link. It reads like satire

It is that over the top.

Crazy.

[tk2kewl]

38. Powell's recommendations were taken up with zest

and that why we now have a completely corrupted news media and insane corporate control over congress

[nashville_brook]

8. i love a good quiche and metapsychology

i think we spend way too much on defense and way too little on "security" for the people.

no one has defined me into this position. is there room for me in this?

[bluedawg12]

17. Great point: defense is simply buying men and material

security is the intelligent application of those resources.

How much time has elapsed sine 9-11? How much money has been spent?
How many countries have we invaded?

The cost in lives and money is staggering.

But are we more secure?

The radical right does not have the ability to make America more secure. They have no strategy other than power and using American kids as IED fodder and the emptying America's coffers.

Our borders are porous and undefended.
The war in I-wreck is a powder keg- we are riding the back of a tiger there.

And now, more cravenly, Mayor Bloomie is using security alerts to keep him from a debate in Harlem, and to take the focus off a flailiong shurb--and sending pre-emptory memo's to rich friends days in advance of scaring the hoi poloi.

[nashville_brook]

23. back in the 80s i used to do a public demonstration of how much money

buys in "defense" vs how much that same money buys in education, healthcare, and general community development. i think the sample was one type of bomber aircraft -- something that was before congress for funding. if one bomber cost 2 billion -- what would that buy in other sectors, and what would the impact of that be.

by far, the smartest money was spent on education -- more people benefitted from meager spending in this area than any other -- which isn't to say the other areas weren't "GREAT BUYS" -- just that education was a CHEAP way to significantly improve life across the board.

now we are so far behind in healthcare it is near crisis proportions. it's not as CHEAP of a buy -- but people DIE for lack of care. no one died for lack of knowing how to proof a parallelogram. :)

[bluedawg12]

35. think of what shrubs war could have bought.

here is why I think it is about power more than money.

while Cheneyburton and Co, make money, true, but domestic spending would have also put money in the pockets of corporations--but the neocommies know that more spending on health and education energy and the environment would not bring them the global hedgemoney they crave and demand.

[Cats Against Frist]

14. I wish they'd leave libertarians the fuck out of it

--even the conservative-leaning ones. Lumping the libertarians in with the authoritarian right-wing does a disservice to both libertarians and democrats. The point is that the right-wing is NOT about the free market, human individuality or smaller government, but they're just another run-of-the-mill form of bureaucratic authoritarianism, and that their illusions of market de-regulation and tax cuts have nothing to do with libertarianism, at all, but have to do with corpo-fascism.

[bluedawg12]

18. Liberals are about individual freedom --conservapigs are

about corporate freedom.

But many of the freepersheepers think that smaller governement applies to themselves and their perosnal liberty- the opposite.

The radicalright wants to curb personal liberty and freedom of action and -- allow for corporations to enjoy liberty and freedom from regulation in the quest for profit.

[OnionPatch]

19. Sadly most Libertarians

at least the ones I know, are very right-leaning and vote Republican. I don't know a single Libertarian that voted for Kerry. Social liberatarians are another story, but they have another name: liberals.

[Pepperbelly]

20. I completely disagree ...

While there are some devotees to that bat-shit crazy Ayn Rand and her belabored meandering drivel in the guise of novels, most are, IMO, merely conservatives that smoke pot.

The very same social and economic darwinism apply to both equally and no, they should not be left out of the mix.

[bluedawg12]

21. That Ayn rand shit is amusing- I read her in high school

and I thought that rugged individualism was way cool--that was about 200 years ago. LOL.

But her pap read with a bit more mature peepers seems perfect for a high school thesis- but very simplistic.

The libertarians vote repug bcause they mixed and drank the cool aide- believing the RW lies that Dems are "PC" and the thought police. Holy Batshit Batman! Wait till the libertarians see what the radicalright has in store for them!

Faster then you can say "midgedecter" they will be told how to worship, who to love, and what to think esp. viz a viz science.

[bluedawg12]

22. How about their foreign policy team: the PNAC

Check out this paper.
This is why IMHO we are wasting our time attacking a dried out shrub- they will be the first to dump him when he is no longer useful.

But- once gone, they will replace shrub with someone else- the vast group has firmly established a shadow constituency.

Does anyone think they will just go quietly?
They will just get more vicious and more aggressive if seen to be losing power.

The question here is: how do liberals and dems make a counter argument that will win the hearts and minds of this nation?

How do we sell the truth to America? Can we? Is it too late?



http://rightweb.irc-online.org/charts/fpteam.php
Bush Foreign Policy Team

"Many of PNAC's founding members joined the Bush administration's foreign policy team, while others continue to hawk their agenda from the positions in nongovernmental institutes that advise the administration..."

[dretceterini]

26. The vast majority

of libertarians I know (including myself) usually don't vote, as we see the left wing of the democratic party almost as scary as the republinuts. We are generally moderates, who don't want the fascism of the right or the socialism of the left.

[eridani]

27. Oh, of course

Universal health care is every bit as creepy as a nuclear apocalypse featuring the "saved" flying around in heaven watching everyone else get blown to hell.

[dretceterini]

29. who said anything

about universal health care (excepet for illegal aliens). I'm as tired of the Democrats calling the illegals "undocumented workers" as I am of the Republicans doing the same thing. Illegals should be forced to do labor, such as cleaning up New Orleans, or deported.

[bluedawg12]

33. ALP:Pentagon requests additional spying powers in U.S.

http://www.lp.org/fp/article_205.shtml

>This request would allow the Pentagon, mostly through the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), to covertly gather intelligence on U.S. citizens in order to determine whether they can be recruited as informants. Moreover, this process can be conducted without telling the prospective informant that he or she is being contacted by the government according to the Christian Science Monitor.<

Kinda scary no? Liberals (sharing the root: libre for "free" with libertarians) would agree with the ALP that this would be subject to abuse and is more power than an American democratic govenment needs.

[bluedawg12]

32. I wish libertarians would vote.

Because I think more unites us than divides us.

While I bristle against people telling me how to act or think- the worst of the two is how to act i.e. behave.

Liberals have been criticized for being thought police and laughed at for so -called PC speech.

In contrast, the radicalright want to control peoples behavior in ways that goes far beyond speech. Sexual behavior for heterosexuals and homosexuals is fair game for the right- who is opinionated about singles, their sexual behavior and their rights.

I don’t mind being reminded that civility in speech makes rubbing elbows with my fellow man less stressful, but I do mind being told that birth control pills for women should not be dispensed, and that single people cannot have in vitro, or that married people seeking in vitro have to pass a religiosity test, etc.

The only libertarian benefits from the right goes to corporate freedoms: freedoms from tax, freedom from paying a fair wage, freedom from supporting American communities in favor of over seas development and schools.

If you go far enough right- you are left , and vice versa. Group think and government interference in private lives is abhorrent from either side.

[checks-n-balances]

28. Johns Hopkins was listed in this; isn't that where Andy Stephenson was

hospitalized & they jacked up the price of his surgery and treatment? Talk about your rightwing conspiracies! Did anybody else notice this connection??

[bluedawg12]

34. The Stalking of Andy Stephenson

http://arizona.indymedia.org/news/2005/07/28715.php

>But the other fork of this story is the profound disturbance it created in the Bush right wing. I didn’t understand this until much later. But, the watchers saw our effort, watched the community response and were inspired with what can only be called hatred. Because only such a reaction could account for the vicious attack that was set into motion.

The first weekend of our fundraiser was without incident, but our jubilation at raising $25,000 in only one hundred hours must have goaded the Bush right. Before the week was out, the rumors of fraud and malfeasance crept over the internet. I began to get anonymous email demanding to know Andy’s most personal information. During the second and last weekend of our effort, the contact information I had made available to donors resulted in my email box being spammed with hate mail. I at that point ignored it. It simply never occurred to me that our effort for our friend would become a political death struggle. <