Does Bush believe in God? Or has he just been hustling the religious right

[mtnsnake]

Poll question: Does Bush believe in God? Or has he just been hustling the religious right

Poll result (88 votes)
He's a devout Christian who believes, & he feels he's doing God's work for him	(3 votes, 3%)	Vote
It's all a hoax. It was one big act to garner the support of the religious right.	(63 votes, 72%)	Vote
He believes in God, but he's a raving lunatic who also believes in the Tooth Fairy	(9 votes, 10%)	Vote
Other	(13 votes, 15%)	Vote

[tuvor]

1. Other.

He believes God was created in his own image.

[PatrioticLeftie]

2. Other

At first he was a psuedo-Christian, but after a long period of brain-washing, now fully believes God talks to him and tells him to mess shit up.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

17. Remember the TANG dentist?

Maybe they put a transmitter in his filling...

[Seen the light]

3. Both

He believes in God and thinks he's the chosen one. However, he's also using his fellow Christians to further his agenda.

[madeline_con]

4. "It's all a hoax...

It was one big act to garner the support of the religious right."


Unfortunately, that particular group of "Christians" is easily led, and are following like, well... like sheep.

I'm surrounded by a whole flock of them at work.

[mzteris]

5. B & C

I truly believe it started out a hoax - a way to manipulate his base, but then he started to believe his own bullsh*t when he started to lose his mind.......

[madeline_con]

6. mzteris, huh?

Remember me, Ybtisam? (Were you recently East of here?)

Anyway, did he actually ever HAVE a mind????

[mzteris]

10. OMG

CHICA!

Long time no see. I figured sooner or later someone of you guys would show up. (I've been waiting for Ber - I can't believe he hasn't made an appearance yet. Although the sysops here are very troll-pro-active so maybe he's been and gone already.)

Isn't this place a breath of fresh air?

By "east of here" - do you mean cf was sooooooooo to the right??

[madeline_con]

11. "... waiting for Ber ..."

Speak of the devil. He asked permission to use some of my "gun nut" posts on some Delphi forum. Whatever. He's obsessed and I told him
so.

By "East of here", I meant the Asian area of the world.

Yes, this place rocks, but I LIKE f-ing with trolls, as you know.

Email John, he's been freaking out!!

[Ikonoklast]

7. Other

He believes that he IS God; that is why he gets so angry when anyone doubts him. He is smiting the infidels in a Holy War to make the world safe for Bushism.


On the other hand, I believe that I'll have another beer.

[IntravenousDemilo]

13. Ditto. n/m

[tridim]

8. He believes whatever the voices in his head tell him to believe

And no, the voice isn't God.

[mtnsnake]

15. "God speaks through me."

I remember when it was reported that he once said that.

Now it was probably part of his bullshit routine, but if he was serious, that is some scarey shit to think that the president of the most powerful country on earth is motivated by some imaginary voices that are scrambling up his demented brain.

Personally, when it comes to what he believes in and why, I think he's 30% bullshitter and 70% madman. Then again, it could be the other way around. Either way, he's either a con man or a mad man...or a combination of both.

[Zynx]

31. I think he is a very complicated guy.

He is extraordinarily selfish, only caring about his own personal well-being(physically, politically, and financially), but at the same time does seem to value a few close friendships a great deal. He is spiteful and nasty when he perceives that people cross him even when they actually don't. In that respect he is kind of Nixonian. He is psychologically fragile and can't stand bad news being presented to him, particularly when it pertains to something that he is responsible for(look at what happened during Katrina).

He is blustering and swaggering in public, undoubtedly to cover up some kind of insecurity. He has a fundamentally negative view about people and believes, correctly, that they can be manipulated readily. In terms of moral/religious(I know they're not the same thing so don't yell at mee) beliefs, he doesn't particularly care about doing the "right" thing so much as he cares about doing what feels good to him.

Bascially what it comes down to is that he is a shallow, nasty, somewhat sociopathic, cynical individual.

[yorkiemommie1]

35. yep

i know someone who worked w/ him for years in texas. this person would agree.

[Coastie for Truth]

9. He's manic-depressive - so "It don't matter." NT

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

12. I think the religious right itself is a hustle

I don't say that categorically, because nothing is all black or all white. But I think that many Christian fundamentalists are engaged in a herd mentality and not thinking for themselves.

Like many holier-than-thou Sunday church-goers, I think Bush might have hypnotized himself into not thinking about what he does on the other days of the week. I think Bush is probably sincere in saying he believes in God. But does someone express a belief in God by what one says or by what one does? Someone who is threatening to veto a funding measure because it doesn't allow for enough freedom to torture, murder, and practice extraordinary rendition is someone who is not analyzing their own actions, if they truly feel they believe in God. I think that the religious right that supports Bush is itself not thinking about the consequences of America's actions and is hustling itself.

Therefore, in my opinion, Bush's mouth and his words say he believes in God. But his acts say he does not, and I think he's stopped thinking about the consequences of his acts.

[mtnsnake]

23. A couple of things...

The high profile cheerleaders of the religious right are certainly hustlers, and very rich for their efforts.

Going along with what you said, I think we can agree that he's fairly irrational in his behaviour, regardless of what he believes in or doesn't believe in.

[Az]

14. Its possible to be a sociopath and believe in god

Simply because someone is immoral does not mean they do not believe in a god. We simply have nothing to go on whether he believes there is a god or not beyond his own claim to believe. Even this leveraging of his moral behaviour to try to determine it is invalid.

Frankly its a bit prejudicial against atheists and other nonbelievers.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

20. "You don't have to be crazy to pray here, but it helps"

Excellent points as usual, Az.

I believe that he believes. It's hard to get off the hootch without a crutch.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

26. True.

Even if he does believe in God, though, I still think he's likely using the religious right to further his own power and wealth.

[Zynx]

27. The Bush family only worships $$$.

That's how it's always been. They are good manipulators of people and in that respect they are similar to Nazis.

[Az]

30. Entirely possible n/t

[HawkerHurricane]

16. "All of they above"

He really believes, but is still a huckster and sociopath. Not a contradiction.

[etherealtruth]

39. I'm with you ...

None of the options exclude the others.

[Swamp Rat]

18. It's all a hoax. It was one big act to garner the support of the sheeple

until THEY can finish stealing Earth's natural resources, and then finally turn us all into edible snacks.

[Zynx]

34. Nice poster.

Modern Republicans have a distinctly authoritarian tendancy to them.

[Swamp Rat]

36. Oh, it's distinct alright:

[LynnTheDem]

19. HOAX; and BUSH ADMITTED it himself before he was Tx guv

Too bad the USSA's m$m never bothered pointing out the realities of bush.

He is a fake and a fraud and always has been.

[SammyWinstonJack]

40. Yep he sure did. Phony as a three dollar bill.

I know I read this, the same time I read about his fake 'born again' transformation, that he was put into drug rehab before running for Tx Gov. I wish I could remember where I read this. I'd like to know if it's true?

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. It's ALL an act. He saw an opportunity during his campaign to play to

the religious RW wacko nut jobs....and all of a sudden, he found
G-d. Very convenient. Just like his faux ranch in Crawford. It's all a facade.

[Zynx]

25. In 1980, his dad suddenly became pro-life and a born-again.

He had been pro-choice and a mainstream Episcopalian. People don't suddenly go "Eureka! Holy shit I was wrong on everything!" quite like that except when they are younger and don't have a lot of information.

[Zynx]

22. Judging by the family as a whole, they are cynical about religion.

I think Shrub is acting with a lot of that stuff just like his dad did. George H.W. Bush and Babs have never struck me as particularly religious. The whole family worships money.

[gulliver]

24. Bush is effectively a devil worshipper.

The being that Bush calls "God" reminds me a lot of Bush. God agrees with everything Bush thinks or does apparently. I think Bush thinks he is right up there with the Big Guy. In reality though, Bush worships himself in a very corrupt way. God is just a name Bush drops (apologies to J.D. Salinger).

[FreedomAngel82]

28. If you've studied Bush

You'd know it's all a ploy. If Bush is a Christian then I'm a fairy.

[mtnsnake]

37. Bush is about as sincere a Christian as Jerry Falwell is

They both have their flock of sheep, they both use their sheep for personal selfish gains, and they are both MADmen.

[Jane Austin]

29. He probably thinks he believes in God, but it's fairly clear that

all he believes in is money and dominance.

[Zynx]

33. "The Lord said unto George, 'Let there be tax cuts'..."

"and there were tax cuts. And Cheney saw that the tax cuts were good."

That's basically all the right-wing is about. Virtually every decision they make has something to do with tax cuts, deregulation, or controlling oil supplies.

[TahitiNut]

32. I really don't give a damn what passes for thought or faith in that ...

... shit-filled skull. I care about what he DOES - and his are the acts of a pathological narcissist and sociopath. I want him, and his cronies, in a padded cell for the rest of their corrupt lives.

[Mark E. Smith]

38. It was always a political hustle

Bush mouths all the proper language, but his actions show him something quite different.