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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:12 PM
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* jaw grinding video
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 01:13 PM by bushmeat
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/video/bush-miers.mov

from

http://www.pensitoreview.com/

I have never seen anyone do this before - anybody?

"A source in the media, who has the opportunity to see the president in person regularly, has pointed out to me that Bush appears to be uncontrollably grinding his teeth, or having a jaw spasm, when he speaks.

Reader Eric sent me a link to a video on the Huffington Post (the video is here, their post on an unrelated topic is here) that clearly shows this problem at the end of Bush’s sentences, his lower jaw twitches or grinds. Eric and his friends noticed it too.

I’m told by folks who know that this is something that happens when people do too much cocaine. I’ve also heard that alcohol abuse can do the same.

Any experts out there want to weigh in? The man is our commander in chief during war time, we have the right to know that he’s well."
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:13 PM
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1. "Coke Jaw"
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:51 PM
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10. read this and tell me it doesnt describe *
Tardive Dyskinesia
What is tardive dyskinesia?
Tardive dyskinesia is a neurological disorder caused by the long-term use of neuroleptic drugs, or anti-psychotic medications. Neuroleptic drugs are generally prescribed for psychiatric disorders, as well as for some gastrointestinal and neurological disorders. The prevalence of tardive dyskinesia is estimated to be 10 to 20 percent of individuals treated with anti-psychotic medications. The elderly are more susceptible to persistent and irreversible tardive dyskinesia than younger people.

Repetitive and involuntary movements characterize tardive dyskinesia. Features of the disorder may include grimacing, tongue protrusion, lip smacking, puckering and pursing, and rapid eye blinking. Rapid movements of the arms, legs, and trunk may also occur. Approximately 60 to 70 percent of the cases are mild, with about 3 percent being extremely severe. Severe cases may involve problems such as difficulty swallowing, speech interference, cosmetic disfiguration, and respiratory trouble.

http://www.nmha.org/infoctr/factsheets/tardiveDyskinesia.cfm
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:15 PM
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2. Maybe it's Tourette's Syndrome
and this facial tic has just become more apparent.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:42 PM
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7. I am beginning to wonder if Bush has epilipsy
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 01:43 PM by bushmeat
Neuroleptics cause jaw grinding

The frequent "accidents"

In short, no one knows what Bush is on, but he's on something, and something has changed in recent months. The docs may be tweaking his meds, trying to find the most effective cocktail. "I can't believe people aren't talking about it in the news," one doctor told me.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:25 PM
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3. Gees, that's an amazing tic
Sort of describes a circle, extension right, center, left....

Where's the literature on coke jaw?
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:37 PM
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4. the wiki says meth abuse causes jaw clenching
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methamphetamine

Other side effects include twitching, "jitteriness", repetitive behavior (known as "tweaking"), and jaw clenching or teeth grinding. It has been noted anecdotally that methamphetamine addicts lose their teeth abnormally fast; this may be due to the jaw clenching, although heavy meth users also tend to neglect personal hygiene, such as brushing teeth. It is often claimed that smoking methamphetamine speeds this process by leaving a crystalline residue on the teeth, and while this is apparently confirmed by dentists, no clinical studies have been done to investigate.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:26 PM
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11. It doesn't look like clenching, though
Unless the sweeping movement is him trying to loosen up his jaw after clenching...

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:40 PM
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5. google "coke jaw"
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:41 PM
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6. from daily kos - neuroleptics cause this
One doctor I know told me he saw 40 examples of these movements in one five-minute speech by Bush (I think it was the speech announcing Roberts for the Supreme Court, but I never saw that one myself so can't confirm). Bush's jaw-thrusting is outward and to one side, and sometimes it completely sends his jaw out, usually at the end of a sentence. The jaw movements are CNS (Central Nervous System) mediated, and probably dopominergically related. The movements are seen in individuals using or abusing drugs affecting the dopominergic system (neuroleptics, anti-psychotics, etc; neuroleptics are a kind of anti-psychotic)...
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 07:29 PM
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12. I did, and it didn't help.
Lots of references to DU and sites like DU, and to soft drinks.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:45 PM
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8. Not an expert, but looks like a druggie to me.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:50 PM
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9. the medical term for this is "tardive dyskinesia"
http://mentalhealth.about.com/cs/psychopharmacology/a/tardtive.htm

Tardive dyskinesia is a movement disorder that is almost always caused by medications. This permanent condition is a potential side-effect of long-term treatment with phenothiazines such as Thorazine and Haldol which are often used to treat schizophrenia and other major mental disorders.

~snip~

The following medications have been shown to cause tardive dyskensia in some patients:

Medications for gastrointestinal problems:

* metoclopramide (Reglan)
* prochlorperazine (Compazine) Medications for cough:
* promethazine (Phenergan)

Medications for depression:

* amoxapine (Ascendin)
* perphenazine/amitriptyline (Triavil)

Antipsychotics or Neuroleptics:

* chlorpromazine (Thorazine)
* thioridazine (Mellaril)
* trifluoperazine (Stelazine)
* perphenazine (Trilafon)
* fluphenazine (Prolixin)
* thiothixene (Navane)
* haloperidol (Haldol)
* pimozide (Orap)



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