Why today might feel worse to women

[realFedUp]

I posted this thought on the end of another thread
but feel like it might be an important point.

Women might feel awful today knowing that men
voted for a known sexual predator as the leader
of all of California. Kind of like reporting
an assault and the predator getting away with it
and even lauded in some circles.

The victims of A probably feel victimized all over again
because they came out in public and people heard their stories
but voted for A anyway.

Love to hear a psychologist's take on this.

[Avalux]

1. Not just because men voted for him

but because a hell of a lot of women voted for him too. That's the real kick in the ass.

[Kazak]

2. The graphic I saw on the tube last night...

showed narrowly won among women as well...so much for that... Of course, that's what the cooked books show anyway.

[theboss]

3. He got a lot of women's votes

And had two Kennedy women kissing him (who- granted - seem to have a remarkably high tolerance for humiliation).

[ModerateMiddle]

10. check out this picture

and evidently Maria's tolerance of her brutish hub.



It sure looks like he's not so much 'holding her hand' as he is holding her arm up.

Sheesh.

[Ripley]

12. She thinks she's Jackie O.

Gawd, does she really think the Groper is JFK?

[maxanne]

4. thanks, RFU

I know I feel awful. What has been wrenching is listening to all the stupid celebrity vbjs for Arnold on the news. (that's verbal blow job, btw) Even NPR was presenting half truths and glossing over a lot of truths.

I listened to a bunch of men justify it all somehow this morning, because of Clinton. I gave them hell. Loudly, and thoroughly.

I am so sick of my gender being regarded as unimportant. Where were the men, rising up to criticize Arnie? Where were the big name Democrats - besides silent. Women are still no more than a set of hooters to a fair ammount of the male population. I am not just feeling awful - I am angry. Really angry.

As a recovering alcholic, my recourse today was a good loud public rant, a big cuppa joe, and a very expensive new pair of shoes.

[janekat]

5. That's why I think women need to really start speaking up about this

This behavior can no longer be condoned (and rewarded).

http://magazine.14850.com/9512/ithindex.html

Percentage of women who will be the victim of sexual assault during their lifetimes: 33%

Percentage of college men who said they would rape if they were "certain they could get away with it": 51%

[cally]

17. That needs it's own thread

Please start one.

Gawd, I just hate this acceptance of mysogyny!

[stopthegop]

6. the things he's accused of are the same ones

Clinton was accused of...just cruder...should women feel bad men (and women) voted for Clinton?

[Avalux]

9. Not exactly

Consensual versus assault.

[Classical_Liberal]

13. No he was accused of rape and harrasment as well.

.

[stopthegop]

14. assuming you leave out several women

like Juanita Broderick, Paula Jones, etc...not I said accused in referring to both Arnold and Clinton, not proven

[maxanne]

19. so one cancels out the other

I am so sick of men saying that to me.

Imagine all of the really rude things I am thinking toward you right now.

[stopthegop]

20. not saying they cancel each other out..

just that Democrats should not be surprised the charges didn't sink Arnold...Dems/NOW/others put a lot of effort into minimizing these same things when Clinton was the target...

and for the record I think the things they are accused of range from very rude to very criminal...and I tend to think they are both guilty of most of the things they are/were accused of

I am thinking calming thoughts at you...
have a good evening

[maxanne]

27. don't try to calm me down

Mr Man

And stop being so patronizing. Try, just try for once in your penis dominated existence to imagine what women might feel like right now.

[stopthegop]

28. what makes you think I'm male? n/t

.

[Ripley]

29. Why would you think Clinton is guilty of rape?

He was investigated by his republican enemies for years with millions of your tax dollars and guess what? They found out he has sex with Monica. Do you really think Ken Starr "covered up" a real story of Clinton raping a woman? Do you really think they wouldn't have shouted that from the rooftops if they had evidence?

You just don't get it. Women came on to Clinton. Arnold came onto women. Big difference.

[stopthegop]

30. I found Juanita Broderick's story to be believable

as did lots of people...that's all...and Starr didn't go into that alledged incident..

[cally]

21. I KNOW what your are thinking

because I am too. There is a huge difference between consensual and assault. And please, if they couldn't prove it after a $70 million investigation, then it just did not happen. Do a little, it won't take much, reading of the new books.

[Spazito]

7. I am heartsick over this...

I feel like someone dropped me back to the 'barefoot & pregnant" era, I feel like all the work that was done on women's rights were just tossed out like garbage.

[Ripley]

8. I saw 45% of women voted for the Groper.

That makes me feel very sick. I saw an interview with a 40-something female who said she voted for him because "we needed change." That doesn't answer why she picked Arnie. I've seen other interviewees say the same thing...they won't really admit they like Arnold or his ideas (what ideas?)...they just say things like "he's determined" or "he's worked hard to get to where he is."

I am at a loss of words to explain why so many women (especially young) seem to be jumping on the bandwagon of anti-feminism in this country. I honestly think they worry more about what color eyeshadow or which designer shoe to buy than what is the character and experience of the person they are voting for.

[Classical_Liberal]

11. I thought the allegations were political hype

and I didn't see Davis as a big loss. I am sure that women who actually voted for him, thought the same thing.

[Spazito]

16. Nice try, Arnold was known as a sexual predator long before...

he ran for the governorship. I am not surprised you feel the way you do tho.

[Classical_Liberal]

18. He was thinking of running when the original Premeir article

ran in 2001 not to mention the fact the the excuse that the LaTimes only had 6 weeks to investigate flies out the window if what you claim is the truth.

[cally]

22. Then you refuse to read and learn

The evidence is before your eyes. Just do a little reading and less spinning please.

[proud patriot]

15. I'm so pissed

I'm A California Woman ...

The groper is going to be my governor .

I don't think it within the DU rules
what I'll say to anyone who voted for
the groper . :mad:

[RedEarth]

23. Ladies it's bad enough that men voted for arnold...

but, 46% percent of women voted for him too. What's the thought process behind their vote?

[Ronnie]

24. Life just never stops...

being like high school. Think back to that time. Think about it.

[SemperEadem]

32. they all probably would line up for a grope by him

They allowed themselves to be pimped by his celebrity. When he fails in office, they will be hollaring the loudest about being deceived by this sexual predator.

And Maria Shrivelled-up is living up to her family destiny to be another beaten down Kennedy wife tolerating her husband's indiscretions and doing a pitiful job defending him to the press.

[SammyWinstonJack]

25. How about the women who voted for him?

:wow:

[Spazito]

26. I am equally disgusted by the women and the men that voted for this...

rabid serial predator.

[Q]

31. I continue to be amazed at the Clinton comparisons...

- Those who bring up Clinton tend to forget that he was at least subjected to the legal system and made to pay in money and dignity. The Jones case was thrown out so the RWing thugs had to use a case of consensual sex against him on 'moral' grounds.

- Clinton didn't 'get away' with anything. It seems as Arnie WILL get away with a lifetime of sexual harassment against women he believed to be powerless to stop him.

- RWingers use Clinton as an excuse to 'forgive' Arnie. Don't join them in the charade.