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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 06:00 PM
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Bush Spins Self-Sufficiency of Iraqi Troops
"At this moment, more than a dozen Iraqi battalions have completed training and are conducting anti-terrorist operations in Ramadi and Fallujah. More than 20 battalions are operating in Baghdad. And some have taken the lead in operations in major sectors of the city. In total, more than 100 battalions are operating throughout Iraq.

Our commanders report that the Iraqi forces are operating with increasing effectiveness. ... The growing size and increasing capability of the Iraqi security forces are helping our coalition address a challenge we have faced since the beginning of the war.

.. As members of Congress speak with Generals (John) Abizaid and (George) Casey, I'm confident they'll see what I see ..."

-- President Bush, in Rose Garden address, Sept. 28

"The number of Iraqi battalions capable of combat without U.S. support has dropped from three to one, Gen. George Casey, the top American commander in Iraq told Congress Thursday.

Despite the drop, Casey hailed significant progress in training Iraqi security forces and noted that U.S. troops are embedded with more Iraqi units in mentoring roles than before.

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) questioned why the generals are discussing troop withdrawals when it's clear Iraqi security forces aren't ready.

'You're taking a very big gamble here. I hope you're correct. I don't see the indicators yet that we are ready to plan or begin troop withdrawals given the overall security situation. And that just isn't my opinion alone,' he said."

-- Associated Press, Sept. 29

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This item first appeared at Journalists Against Bush's B.S.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 06:05 PM
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1. Iraqi battalions DROPPED from THREE down to ONE.
Sit on that and spin, bush, you lying MFing idiot.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 06:12 PM
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2. it's very simple, troops must be loyal to a nation
Iraqui troops are in reality loyal to their ethnic background and their tribe...

Which means (since they are mostly Kurd and Shiite) that the Sunnis are taking the heat from the only combat ready division. The rest is unarmed because it would be too dangerous to arm them (the US military isn't that stupid).

The real Iraqui Army are the Pehsmergas and the Mehdi/Sadr Army. Who they will fight in the future depends on local coalitions to seize power. Not necessarily the ones the US want to fight.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:34 PM
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3. ONE Iraqi battalion(500 toops) can function on its own -49500 folks
who can not function as an Army without US Troops protecting them are getting paid as "Iraqi security forces"

At least they have lowered the level of BullShit on Iraq from Cheney's (and our media's since they did not challenge Cheney) pre 04 election claim of nearly 200,000 trained folks in the "Iraqi security forces" (they did admit training for a "security guard" was one day or less!).

God I love our media.
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