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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:51 PM
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why Chimp started drinking again
because when Rove gets indicted, he won't have a brain.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:53 PM
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1. How about a defense strategy?
Reagan couldn't remember, and now neither can Bush.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:53 PM
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2. Did he ever stop?
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:53 PM
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'Cuz if he did any more blow, his jaw would fly right off his face
Of course, it'd be the first newsworthy press conference he's had in five years.

Send that man an eightball!
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Dying Eagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:57 PM
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7. lol
thats F-ing funny Atman!!
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:53 PM
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3. He NEVER STOPPED.
That is the best told lie of the age. Bush never stopped drinking. He just stopped drinking in public and in front of Laura & the kids.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:55 PM
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4. Do you have a source for that?
I'm interested because I never heard that before and I'm wondering who had the cajones to report on it!!
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celestia671 Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:56 PM
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5. It was published in the Enquirer recently
Don't have a link though.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:10 PM
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15. I have read that one
I mean about him never even being ON the wagon.
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:04 PM
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24. Here's the link
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:58 PM
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9. We have film of him drunk at a wedding in the mid 90s.
And I have personal sources who have seen him drinking in 2003.

The rest is surmise; He was an alcoholic who never sought treatment or a support group. The invented legend says he just stopped drinking one day at age 40...

I grew up in a tavern. It was our family business. And I know that almost zero of the people who simply resolved to stop drinking in mid-life like that ever kept with it. But they did find ways to hide it from their families!
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:00 PM
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10. Film
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:05 PM
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12. You are quite adamant with your statement.
I feel the truth when you speak! I believe you are 100% correct.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:11 PM
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16. Okay, thanks for explaining your thinking on this.
I see your point.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:16 PM
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19. Ben, I quit at 39
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 08:19 PM by Atman
Forty six now. Dry as a bone.

I did a lot of research on various "recovery" methods, and the research confirms that ANY method of quitting is equally as effective as any other. The point is to stop, not to please others narrow confines of what "sober" means.

AA is needed by some people, but not everyone needs their hand held, or the belief that they're worthless pieces of shit with no control over their own actions.

(ON EDIT) - I do believe Bush probably needed the support, especially in the rarified martini-soaked air he lives in.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:24 PM
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20. Well, I am very glad for you!
I hope you can manage to stay off!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:40 PM
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22. I'm good, thanks
Life is better. Fortunately, I was still not-drunk enough to know I was drinking too much, and didn't have to wake up in gutter someplace. My dad died from cigarettes; I don't eat red meat for health reasons; I did a stint with a shrink (so I didn't go it totally alone). I looked at it as just another lifestyle choice NOT to put a poison into my body.

Like I said, the fact is, AA is no more effective, statistically, than cold turkey or an alternate method like SOS or the others. The key is really the personality. Some people have always been made to feel they're weak and powerless, and AA plays right into it. Again, no problem if that's what works for you. I couldn't abide by the religious overtones to it, the prayers; no one's going to convince me that "higher power" could just as easily be a doorknob...especially when they're holding my hand and leading a room full of people in prayer!

Anyway, thanks again.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:17 PM
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25. Well, should you ever need to talk to an old bartender about this...
Just let me know!
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 05:37 AM
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30. Yes, but W is a man of very weak character and very little self-control
I believe that certain people can stop for good, I just don't think he's one of those people.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:43 AM
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32. Yeah, that was pretty much my point
I didn't just quit drinking...I quit a whole self-destructive lifestyle. I changed my eating habbits (and lost 55 pounds!), studied some Eastern philosophy, really looked at why I drank. But that took having to admit I was doing something wrong in the first place. Bush kills tens of thousands of people, and he STILL can't ever admit a mistake. His drinking is a deep-rooted character flaw that won't change just by speechifying and telling everybody around him "Shut the fuck up, I'm fine!"
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:43 AM
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31. Are you refering to that scene in F9/11?
Bush on the lawn with James Baker, throwing a frisbee and then chugging a wine cooler? 'Cause that was yucky.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:56 PM
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6. Gotta back you up on that one.
The "accepted Jesus as his personal savior" bullshit is a LIE.

The "stopped drinking when he turned 40" bullshit is ANOTHER lie.

The only thing that is TRUE about the man is that he is an Oedipal, substance-abusing frat boy from Connecticut with a fake-ass Texas twang.

THAT'S true.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 05:31 AM
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28. As a native Texan, I second all of that - including the fake-ass Texas
twang. It goes with his fake-ass ranch and is supposed to make him look and sound like a cross between the Marlborough Man (not easy since he's afraid of horses) and a down-home Man of the People.

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 08:01 AM
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35. Apparently he has a distended heart in that picture.
That's a much more serious issue.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:06 AM
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38. Did he really put his hand there or is this PS?

I forgot about this one.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:56 AM
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39. Far as I know, it's real. n/t
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:27 PM
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21. I'm sure he drinks in front of Laura and his drunk kids


They drink too.

I also think Babs drinks too.

It is all a fairy tale that we were suppose to believe.

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Sonora Nora Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:35 PM
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26. steenkin' drinkin'
I saw Laura interviewed by K Couric 2 or so years ago. Katie asked her if she drank & Lovely Laura chuckled & said she enjoys a margarita now & then w/her girlfriends back in TX. She said her drinking posed no problems for her presidential hubby.
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:58 PM
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8. He won't have a liver either, and he could turn the perfect color for his
administration: jaundice yellow.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:03 PM
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11. Yeah, YELLOW is his color!
:rofl:
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:07 PM
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13. An aide told him he couldn't wear a Coast Guard uniform in his NO speech
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 08:11 PM by cassiepriam
AND he couldn't drive one of the boats.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:13 PM
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18. "Oooh! Oooh!"
The thought of Bushy in a captain's suit running a boat immediately made me think of the old guy in the Disney movie, The Boatniks.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:09 PM
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14. He's been drinking for several years
I've known many fall down drunks. This is classic.

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:11 PM
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17. I think you are right. He never really stopped drinking. nt
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 08:12 PM by cassiepriam
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:51 PM
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23. I"ve said since day 1
I'd love to live next door to him. It'd be constant party, laughing, drinking, barbecue, more party! You'd know up front you can't trust him as far as you can throw him so you just go party.

But I don't want someone like that as president.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 05:03 AM
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27. You are the minority....
didn't most people vote for him because he was the candidate
they would most like to party with??

Apparently that is the criteria for selecting the most
powerful man in the world.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 05:34 AM
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29. Capital Hill Blue: Dangers of a Drunk Dubya
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7...

In normal times, such a story in a tabloid like the Enquirer would be dismissed as just another fantasy for the newspaper that normally devotes its front page to gossip about celebrity divorces. But an America with Bush as President is anything but normal and too many warning signs point to the sad fact that Dubya the drunk is back on the bottle. Plus we reported the same thing in a story about Bushs temper tirades on August 25.

Like the President, Im a recovering alcoholic. Unlike him, Ive been sober for 11 years, three months and 16 days. Bush says he quit drinking without help from any organized program. I had a lot of help from family, friends and Alcoholics Anonymous. As an alcoholic, I can say without hesitation that available evidence tells me that Bush is drinking and drinking heavily.

The signs have been there for too long. Bush fell off a couch after, his aides say, falling asleep. He has appeared in public with bruises on his face, the kind of injuries a person would suffer from falling in alcohol-impaired conditions. He disappears from public view for extended periods, takes more vacations than other Presidents, has trouble forming words, appears disinterested in public and mangles his sentences. In other appearances he rambles and appears unable to focus. During the Katrina crisis he displayed little emotion or compassion when confronted with the horrors along the Gulf Coast.

This web site reported last year that the White House physician had placed the President on anti-depressants. If Bush is mixing alcohol and anti-depressant drugs his judgment which is already suspect is impaired even more
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:53 AM
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33. Well, Laura was out of the picture during his recent stressful experiences
In codependent marriages featuring one addict, when the sober spouse--who may serve as the stop-gap or buffer between the addict and his abuse--is not around, a major part of the addicts motivation for not abusing is also not around. No Laura for all these weeks when so many stressors have been pushing Bush toward a binge probably pushed him right over the edge.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:51 PM
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41. The presidency makes us all his enablers: We accept his verbal
assaults and make excuses, all avoiding the most obvious conclusion: He's hammered.

It's as if we all pretend not to know a drunken/doper who gets by with a smile and a joke. We all have one of these in our lives, yet we refuse to accept that we've got one running the free world.

If he were a spouse, alot of us would walk, but you don't want to think your country could be this foolish.

Choking on a pretzle, falling off a bike, dirtbike, motorcycle, what was that 2 wheeled stand-up thing? They're always making up stories about him literally falling on his face, and we all go: Ha ha: the silly goon president fell down again.

No he didn't: He's hammered.
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kitten29 Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:59 AM
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34. too funny
:applause:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:47 AM
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36. Hi kitten29!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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kitten29 Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:34 PM
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40. y
thank you new yawker... i was born in great neck !!! that makes me a native new yawker too, are y ???
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:57 AM
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37. He knows the world is coming to an end on his watch.
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 10:57 AM by Ilsa
Global warming, melting continents releasing viruses, weather catastrophes, avian flu epidemic, toxic air and water, wars, and he still hasn't been raptured like he thought he would be. He is stuck in the same hellhole as the rest of us.
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imperial jedi Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:26 PM
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42. can't start drinking again when
he never stopped in the first place.
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