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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:33 PM
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WTF, this is really, really bizarre...
Progress for American-Voter Fund just ran an ad PRAISING the Democrats who voted for John Roberts. :wtf:

PFA is a conservative 527 that goes after liberals because liberals want to take all your money and spend it on social programs instead of war, weapons and tax breaks for the rich.

In their ad they say the Democrats rose above partisan politics and voted for Roberts in a straight up or down vote.

Could somebody tell me why they would do something like this? I worry when Democratic senators receive accolades from conservative political groups. :banghead:


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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:36 PM
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1. About half the DC Dems are hard-core Republican activists.
So this praise is well-earned.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:46 PM
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7. Half the Dems are hard-core Republican activists huh?
I think you forgot the :sarcasm:
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:52 PM
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8. I intended no sarcasm.
I'm furious beyond words at the utter capitulation by the phony Dems who voted for Roberts.

At a time when w's regime is taking massive hits from prosecutors, the media, and the public, these "Democrats" continue to give w everything his little heart desires.

They no longer have anything to fear from w - they could put him away any time. But they're on his side - firmly and irrevocably.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:58 PM
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13. Not very pragmatic I see
Oh, well, takes all types I guess...
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:15 PM
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18. Your naivete is touching even though you mask it with condescension.
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 09:16 PM by Jim Sagle
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:18 PM
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19. lol - yeah, intellectualize me into submission
:rofl:

Then you ain't got NO party and NO political power - haha!!

How's that for some street reality :rofl:
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:25 PM
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21. How much political power do we have now? Zero, zip, zilch.
Gore won, w lost, and everybody knows it. So what?

Kerry won, w lost, and everybody knows that too. So what?

Democrats are the majority in this country. But we have NO power - thanks to the capitulationist cretins that misrepresent us in Washington.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:37 PM
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2. What's the obvious answer?
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:38 PM
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3. saw that earlier today as well
Disturbing. It's one political orgy.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:42 PM
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4. I saw that as well. I hate that announcers voice, he does everybody's
politcal ads. Screw them, they have no moral high ground at all.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:56 PM
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12. Unless it's just a perfect imitation
he's also the guy who did those "Living the High Life" commercials for Miller beer.
Hell, I'm a Sam Adams guy anyway...
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:42 PM
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5. Very simple. Rooted in psychology.
It is a reward system. They are rewarding the ones that did what they want by showering praise and accolades. Instead of blasting the ones that DIDN'T vote their way...they will use a positive message so as to influence them psychologically to seek praise time and time again.
A reward system is a complex contract.
Psychologists have successfully used reward systems to train self-care, symptom improvement, social interaction, education, and job training in various patient populations, including psychiatric patients, mentally retarded people, juvenile delinquents, criminals, alcoholics, and drug addicts.
We can add politicians to the list if this works. :eyes:
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:55 PM
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11. I hope it backfires on them if that's the case.
I know about the reward system but if it works on politicians we have a lot to worry about.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:43 PM
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6. because they're getting ready...
for the next nomination ...the ad stated call your rep and demand the next nominee get an up or down vote...
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:53 PM
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9. Catapulting The Propaganda.
They are pushing the theme that King George's nominees are really, really grand. Those nominees are so grand that the "reasonable" Democrats even agree.

Since King George's nominees are so grand and the Democrats agree, any future nominee should also be voted in. If not, then the Democrats are being *Radical Obstructionists*.

That's what I saw in that ad.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:54 PM
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10. There are many dem pols who crave nothing more than a
thug pat on the head. They keep thinking the olive branch works on these hate mongers as something more than a whip, forgetting the Washington dictum, "if you want a friend, get a dog..."
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:58 PM
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14. To piss you off
And get the silly Democrats back to fighting amongst ourselves in the hopes that noone will notice their party is imploding.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:59 PM
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15. An attempt to drive another wedge into the Democratic party. n/t
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:18 PM
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20. And point out that we don't have the courage to stand up for
what we believe in.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:03 AM
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22. This toon captures the courage of most of our Democratic leaders, eh?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:02 PM
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16. To split the Democrats
get them fighting amongst themselves. Also, it reinforces the illusion that the Democrats are powerless and in a minority in this country.
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Robertwf Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:13 PM
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17. They think they are petting a tame dog
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:12 AM
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23. Posts 6 and 9 explain it nicely
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:36 AM
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24. They're the people that attacked Dean, early on
Attacked him for being too conservative, meaning, "why would you ol' dems want to vote for someone so conservative."

I, personally, think they might be a covert arm of the DLC -- would make sense, in this instance, too.
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