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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:28 PM
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ON YAHOO: U.S. Insists on Keeping Control of Web
GENEVA - A senior U.S. official rejected calls on Thursday for a U.N. body to take over control of the main computers that direct traffic on the Internet, reiterating U.S. intentions to keep its historical role as the medium's principal overseer.

"We will not agree to the U.N. taking over the management of the Internet," said Ambassador David Gross, the U.S. coordinator for international communications and information policy at the State Department. "Some countries want that. We think that's unacceptable."

Many countries, particularly developing ones, have become increasingly concerned about the U.S. control, which stems from the country's role in creating the Internet as a Pentagon project and funding much of its early development.

Gross was in Geneva for the last preparatory meeting ahead of November's U.N. World Summit on the Information Society in Tunisia.

Some negotiators from other countries said there was a growing sense that a compromise had to be reached and that no single country ought to be the ultimate authority over such a vital part of the global economy

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050929/ap_on_hi_te/interne... ;_ylt=AiRAoSjlK2agG6.ewQYxI0ms0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3ODdxdHBhBHNlYwM5NjQ-
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 04:32 PM
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1. Theyll do ANYTHING to keep their control. But I'm glad that
the UN is raising the issue at last.

Recommended - I think this is very important.


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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 04:33 PM
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2. agreed, kicked and nominated
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 05:51 PM
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3. This is good but... they need even more balls!
The rest of the world could VERY easily force our hand... its simple... switch their domestic nets to seprate DNS servers and then make a simple ultimadum... we delist EVERY US company from our servers (cutting off those markets 100%) or you agree that both our sets of servers get turned over to an international group.

We would have no choice.
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DFWdem Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 06:11 PM
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4. If it ain't broke, don't fix it
The last thing the internets need is an added layer of bureaucracy. I say leave it as it is. Do we really want, say, China managing the internet?
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 06:17 PM
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5. Seems Broke
To me. And where did China come into the picture?
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DFWdem Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 06:21 PM
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6. How is it broke?
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 06:23 PM by DFWdem
Sorry, I knew I should've posted a reference to the story about Yahoo giving the identity of a blogger to the Chinese gov't in my post but got lazy. The blogger had posted something the gov't didn't agree with and subsequently received (I think) 10 years in prison. This story came out a week or two ago.

On edit:

http://www.etaiwannews.com/Perspective/2005/09/11/11264...

"The role of the U.S. Internet firm Yahoo in helping Chinese security officials to finger a journalist sentenced to 10 years for e-mailing "state secrets" is filtering into mainland China. The revelation reinforces a conviction among many Chinese "netizens" that there is no place security forces can't find them."

"They say the case of Mr. Shi, convicted for e-mailing comments made in a newspaper staff meeting to a democracy group in New York, and whose IP Internet address was given to Chinese officials by Yahoo - highlights both a deepening U.S. corporate acceptance of illiberal Chinese laws and a little-noticed rise in the jailing of journalists in China over the past two years."
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 06:30 PM
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7. The Internet
Is world wide by its nature. Now one government wants to control it.

So it seems broke to me.

The solution seems to be that it will come under the regulations of each country, such as the FCC in the US. Then each country will have agreements with each other country to permit access. This will then expand to groups of countries that agree to common rules.

So if control is not vested with one common authority that, has the agreement of all parties it will be fragmented into groups.

So we will have internets.

As to China, I believe that they are only controlling the internet within China, which I believe is the intent of the EU, which will allow the EU to control the use within its borders and not have the US controlling that use.

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IMOK_UROK2 Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:07 PM
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8. I think the NSA already pretty much controls the internet
with ECHELON. emails, phone calls, faxes.. I don't think they will let the UN have any say. Well, they don't really control it but they can pretty much monitor anything passing through the net.
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