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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:54 AM
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How to argue with a RW Nut, if you have to...
I have used this a 100 times in the past, and it almost always works

Here is the typical RW Argument to almost everything

You: Bush xxxx

Them: Well xxxx did xxxx

This is an attempt to deflect and place you on the defense, I always respond this way

It is a weak argument to attempt to justify bad behavior with bad behavior. Your mother should have taught you this. Just because Jimmy jumped off a bridge, does not make it right.

This says, hey you may be right, but lets get back to the question at hand. They hate it!

They shut up
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:55 AM
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1. Two wrongs don't make a right. n/t
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:56 AM
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3. bingo
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:56 AM
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2. My response is usually "And you were okay with it then? Why?"
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:56 AM
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4. Suprised they don't know that already. OReilly says that every day
"You can't justify bad behavior with bad behavior"

Unless, of course, he is using such justification to defend a right winger.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:04 AM
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5. I just go full-on libertarian on their asses
I am a libertarian, but a liberal. When I come across a shit-spewing wing-nut, I can usually block every talking point with libertarian views, then I accuse them of being authoritarians, supporters of big-government, shame them with Thomas Jefferson, and that's usually the end of it. A good psychological deconstruction never hurts, either. Hint: know your right wing ivory tower.
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MostlyLurks Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:33 AM
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8. Honest question:
When you say you're a "liberal Libertarian", what do you mean by that? I ask only because I had no idea one could consider oneself both simultaneously (i.e. I always thought they were mutually exclusive political labels or theories).

Cordially,

Mostly
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:42 AM
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9. There are many kinds of libertarians
In my case, I simply believe that large bureaucracies are ineffective and prone to being usurped, by, say, fascists. I also believe that community isn't defined by borders or nations -- though, as a minarchist, I do defer to the tenth amendment of the Constitution. There are, of course, problems in dealing with de-centralization, but, in my humble opinion, they're no more difficult than getting any other system to hum, effectively.

Other than that, and a segregationist streak that has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with effective, strong, minority communities, I'm pretty much progressive, on the local level.

There are geo-libertarians, anarchists, anarcho-syndicalists, and other kinds of left-orientated people who are actually against distant, large, bureaucratic government.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:07 AM
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6. "I know you are, but what am I."
My 6-year-old son argues better than a wingnut.

At least arguments are coherent and based in fact.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:13 AM
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7. That's a typical winger tactic...
...if you bring up the Abu Ghraib photos they will say "so, they would do much worse to us if they had us in their prisons"

The newest RW mantra is "so what, it's an all volunteer military, they haven't instigated a draft yet" when asked about the deaths and casualties, and why we want the troops out of there.
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