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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:50 AM
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Bush thinks Bennett's comments were not appropriate
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 11:51 AM by NNN0LHI
http://www.normantranscript.com/feeds/apcontent/apstori...

Bennett: Black Abortions Would Lower Crime


The White House on Friday criticized former Education Secretary William Bennett for remarks linking the crime rate and the abortion of black babies.

"The president believes the comments were not appropriate," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

Bennett, on his radio show, "Morning in America," was answering a caller's question when he took issue with the hypothesis put forth in a recent book that one reason crime is down is that abortion is up.

"But I do know that it's true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could, if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down," said Bennett, author of "The Book of Virtues."

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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:57 AM
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1. In context
he did qualify the statement by saying it was an awful way to think (paraphrasing.)

But even so, he is a hypocrite. A virtuous gambler who has lost millions of his family's money. And he tells us what to do. Why does he still have a stage?
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:01 PM
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4. Abortion is an awful way to think, says Bennett
But the reflex equating of blacks and crime, not a word.

Bennet, amazingly, disclosed what he and conservatives assume they mean when they talk about crime: blacks, and only blacks. He assumed his caller was speaking of black babies as potential criminals, because that's the unsaid portion of all conservative conservations about blacks OR criminals.

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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:49 PM
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25. Not appropriate - Meaning "shouldn't say it out loud".
Can Bush not even muster the fortitude to say "WRONG"?
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:24 PM
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26. He doesn't want to say "wrong"
He wants to give the wink and the nod, that is, "isn't it terrible how those PC freaks get all upset over nothing? Next time, save it for the club."
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:02 PM
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5. I'm sorry but that is incorrect....
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 12:03 PM by truebrit71
...his qualifying statement relates only to the issue of aborting the fetuses as being "wrong"...and NOT the fact that 'blacks cause crime'...which is the main point he was making...

The issue here isn't the aborting issue (which he said would be reprehensible :eyes:) but the fact that he believes that black babies grow up to do one thing, commit crimes...

THAT'S why it's such an amazingly ignorant thing to say, Blacks=Crime.

Nice, republican family values at work...
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:04 PM
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I agree. Its not the advocating of aborting every black baby
its the idea that "ethnic cleansing", so to speak, would lower the crime rate.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:06 PM
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7. I just re read it
and you are correct. When I read it quickly I thought he was saying the whole line of thought was reprehensible. He obviously was only qualifying the one issue.

Holier-than-thou smarmy jackass.


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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:09 PM
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21. Right. Bennett voiced assumption that blacks are criminals, vice versa
nt
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:47 PM
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23. YES. Thanks.
Gotta pick apart the argument a bit to see that he's putting forward, as true, an awfully racist premise.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:04 PM
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6. Who gives a shit
if he said it would be awful - if he thinks it would be so awful he should have kept his freaking mouth shut - he supposedly got the idea from some book and my understanding is that the book said if poor babies were aborted the crime rate would go down - and although I think that is awful too - it was Bennett who brought up race. He is a disgusting pig and they should take his radio show off the air NOW.

I am a white woman with three beautiful bi-racial nephews and when I heard this statement - I was seized with fear that my nephews might hear this disgusting statemnet. Bill Bennette and all his friends should rot in hell.
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LizMoonstar Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:17 PM
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12. just as a side note, the book doesn't say that at all.
the book says that kids with no other opportunities are more likely to commit crimes, and that many of these kids come from mothers who were not intending to have a child at that point but had no other choice. therefore, when choices became available to these women, both abortion and adoption, many of those kids either were not born or were adopted into families where there would be more opportunities for them. the book does not advocate aborting anyone - it is descriptive research only, iirc.
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:20 PM
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14. Sure, he qualified it, BUT
Even his "qualifications" were racist. He associated criminality with merely BEING BLACK. And he suggested that genocide would "solve" the "problem," albeit in an immoral way.

Basically, if you boil it down, he was saying that we whites could make ourselves safer by killing off black babies. But, we don't do that because we are just SUCH decent, moral people. In essence, he was saying we should pat ourselves on the back for not committing genocide (Good for is!).

Also, wasn't it funny how he didn't say that we could reduce crime by making sure African American kids had the same educational and vocational options as whites... or if we made sure that all poor kids (of any race) got a fair shot in this country. Why didn't he say THAT? He apparently thinks those kinds of things would not work, but killing would -- even if he doesn't recommend it.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:51 PM
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15. Sure sounds like
"the final solution," doesn't it?
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:42 PM
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22. My thought exactly (nt)
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:00 PM
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2. I'm not surprised by his remarks
I remember that fucker from his "Just Say No" days. He was a Nazi in a suit back then too.

I laughed when he got caught gambling. High Times once got a photo of him drinking hard liquor at 10 AM at some political function. No one cared, though.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:00 PM
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3. "It would have been more appropriate if he had used the "N" word"
- the sociopath-in-chief
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:10 PM
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8. "Dammit, Bill, how's my mama gonna top that one?"
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:10 PM
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9. How about aborting conservatives. That would be a good start.
It would lighten up the white-collar criminal case backload.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:00 PM
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19. Caller on Washington Journal said if repub babies were to be aborted
crime rates would fall, "just ask Tom Delay". :yoiks:
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:13 PM
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10. Right wingers sure are making lots of new black friends! Keep it up!
:sarcasm:

There's more fucking crimes done by white people than, blacks! Look at all the white criminal people at the Whitehouse, congress and Senates?

I am so sick of all these psycho racists basters! :banghead:
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:16 PM
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11. "not approrpriate" Way to gloss over jr.
It's not only "not appropriate" it's fucking racist.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:19 PM
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13. CNN headline news is reporting that the WH condemned it....
:eyes:

It's fucking ridiculous how corporate media spins this and lets the WH get away with saying 'not appropriate'. :grr:
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:53 PM
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16. There was a murder at my school in 1989
I was talking about it with a group of 1st grade girls who had witnessed the whole thing. One sweet little thing said "Mrs. B, Sylvester (the gunman) acted inappropriately."

Uh-huh. He sure did. Such a nice polite word, inappropriate.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:55 PM
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17. Reminds me of Clinton and Sister Souljah.
Bush gets to slap down someone on his own side to show how reasonable he allegedly is.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:07 PM
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20. It's the other way around.
Bush makes such a weak and non-specific statement that every republican understands that Bennett's sin is to say on the air what all republicans think.

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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:58 PM
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18. not appropriate
but he didn't say the comments were wrong. I mean is it too much to ask that President anti-abortion come out against aborting black men to prevent crime. A real press would have asked Scotty under what setting would the president find the comments appropriate.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:48 PM
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24. Sure. OK to think, but not say. NT
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