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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:29 AM
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Here are two reasons why I believe JUDITH MILLER WILL NOT GIVE THE TRUTH:
1. There is no way to ensure that Miller's testimony does not include perjury about what was actually said in those Plame-related conversation(s). Her Iraq War work show she's perfectly comfortable with murderous lies, and the paper editors must be too because she still has her job after her criminal role in passing the Administration's lies in the leadup to the war. Why would she tell the truth if she can get away with lying about this? And how would we ever know?

2. According to the deal made with Fitzgerald's team and Miller's lawyers, she cannot be asked about any of her other sources. So if it was BOLTON who was the traitor who told her, or indeed if it was anyone but Libby, she DOES NOT HAVE TO TELL.

I'm betting it was Bolton who talked to her, and by the deal that has been made, she will not have to divulge this. This is JUSTICE???


The NYT article and the disgusting statements by Miller and NYT editorial brass are linked to and excerpted in this post (within another thread on the Miller release):
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

(Don't miss the link to a thread on Conyers' blogging about this at the end of that post.)

And people, remember that Miller is STILL a valued employee of the NY Times after the murderous role she played in helping to push this country into the Iraq War by passing on the Administration's lies. The blood of thousands is on her hands. She does not care. Her editors and the owners of the New York Times do not care. Now she is spouting about protecting high principles (excerpts from http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_di... ):

...I am also grateful to the many fellow journalists and citizens from the United States and around the world, who stood with me in fighting for the cause of the free flow of information. It was a source of strength through a difficult three months to know they understood what I did was to affirm one of my profession's highest principles....

And Bill Keller, the NYT executive editor, is spouting the most nauseating glop about this woman of murderous lies, published in his paper:

It's an enormous relief that Judy's ordeal is over. Her steadfastness in defense of principle has won her admiration from around the world, wherever people value a free, aggressive press.

(snip)

Her friends and colleagues are delighted she's free, and -- if there is satisfaction in what she has endured -- I am satisfied that she has held fast to a principle that matters deeply.


Judith Miller as a "defender of high principles." :grr: I can't stand this. The hypocrisy meter, which gets such a constant beating in this Administration, is absolutely PINNED.

Even now Miller is very likely covering for high traitors in the Iraq War leadup and in the Plame leak - this is no woman of any principle except furthering her own ambition at any cost. And remember, the outing of Plame herself was bad enough, a crime of a traitor, but even more substantial -and, I believe, a major intention in the whole exercise - is the fact that this step destroyed an entire long-term NETWORK involved in getting the TRUTH ABOUT WMDs IN THE MIDDLE EAST. It was obviously in the Administration's interest to block the truth, for their lies - obediently relayed to the public (including Congress) via Miller - served as the basis for the Iraq war. Is this not an act of an even WORSE traitor? Covering such a crime is no admirable thing, certainly not justification for the self-congratulatory back-slapping of Miller and her bosses at the NYT.

We need to BLAST the NYT and other newspapers with LTTEs to object to Miller's continuing employment by the NYT after her Iraq War lies and the sorry carrying on about how proud they are about her work in protecting murderous traitor(s) responsible for destroying most of our information network responsible for WMD information in the Middle East.

And she will STILL be protecting the traitor(s) during her testimony for Fitzgerald. I'm betting at least one of them is BOLTON. Why do YOU think he came to visit her in jail?
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  - Recommended!  norml   Sep-30-05 01:34 AM   #1 
  - Hold it  tkmorris   Sep-30-05 01:37 AM   #2 
  - yeah, I agree.. I can't believe that  themartyred   Sep-30-05 01:43 AM   #3 
  - That's how I interpret this bit about the insistence that NO OTHER SOURCES  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 01:46 AM   #4 
  - gosh.. that blows  themartyred   Sep-30-05 01:57 AM   #8 
  - note the updated edit in my earlier reply to you - the E & P makes it  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 02:00 AM   #10 
  - But once she gets into court, the Grand Jury can ask her anything.  The Backlash Cometh   Sep-30-05 03:11 AM   #23 
     - We need more clarification on this. The agreement with Fitzgerald's  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 04:39 AM   #29 
        - If this is a credible lead, why hasn't Fitzgerald obtained release forms  The Backlash Cometh   Sep-30-05 08:43 AM   #41 
           - Here is what I said about that downthread - Arianna Huffington wrote  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 12:03 PM   #48 
  - No that's not exactly right. Scooter was ONE of Judy's sources,  napi21   Sep-30-05 12:37 PM   #56 
  - eggz-sell-lent  xxqqqzme   Sep-30-05 01:47 AM   #5 
  - Why does it have to be so damn difficult?  BuyingThyme   Sep-30-05 01:53 AM   #6 
  - How about if Jackie Chan were to grab Bolton, Libby and her solider  LiviaOlivia   Sep-30-05 01:57 AM   #7 
  - if there is any way fitzgerald can get these people he will  madrchsod   Sep-30-05 01:57 AM   #9 
  - thanks for the "light"  themartyred   Sep-30-05 02:04 AM   #13 
  - Aw man . Thats total BS. I doesn't matter though.The public will  ladylibertee   Sep-30-05 02:02 AM   #11 
  - *** EXCERPTS TO SHOW THE CRIPPLING LIMITATIONS ON MILLER'S TESTIMONY***  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 02:04 AM   #12 
  - "And she will STILL be...  Mr_Jefferson_24   Sep-30-05 02:10 AM   #14 
  - Oh, I hope he wraps her up like a rancid sausage. But the stage is set to  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 02:16 AM   #15 
     - Interesting. I'm not sure...  Mr_Jefferson_24   Sep-30-05 02:39 AM   #20 
        - No, I haven't been following the "Judy File," and I wish I had been. She's  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 02:57 AM   #22 
  - Miller's involvement  Marie26   Sep-30-05 02:22 AM   #16 
  - I think your idea of BOLTON telling Miller, then Miller telling ROVE makes  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 02:26 AM   #18 
  - Right  Marie26   Sep-30-05 02:31 AM   #19 
  - Wouldn't this still make Rove the leaker though?  Norquist Nemesis   Sep-30-05 12:47 PM   #58 
  - wait wait wait..let me ask this..has libby testified to GJ???  flyarm   Sep-30-05 12:57 PM   #60 
     - Yep, Libby's already testified.  Marie26   Oct-01-05 12:23 AM   #68 
  - Another source  Marie26   Sep-30-05 09:40 AM   #42 
  - Welcome to DU!!! Someone recommended me to this specific post!  autorank   Sep-30-05 12:08 PM   #49 
  - **** PLAUSIBLE SCENARIO: BOLTON told Miller, then Miller told ROVE ****  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 02:23 AM   #17 
  - BOLTON: excellent candidate for the leaker heres Seymour Hersh on him:  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 02:49 AM   #21 
  - Maybe she'll say it was Delay?  info being   Sep-30-05 03:24 AM   #24 
  - No, Delay wouldn't have been in that loop - just doesn't fit.  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 03:48 AM   #25 
  - Washington Note: BOLTON WAS A REGULAR SOURCE FOR MILLER  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 04:09 AM   #26 
  - Delete - repetition  Marie26   Sep-30-05 08:22 AM   #40 
  - ***Ariana Huffington on 9/20: "Plamegate: The John Bolton Connection"***  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 04:20 AM   #27 
  - Arianna in today's Huffington Post: "Miller Walks: The Plot Thickens"  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 04:32 AM   #28 
  - The NYTs is as disgusting as possible.  sfexpat2000   Sep-30-05 07:37 AM   #36 
  - do not forget that we have a mafia running the government..JM is protected  flordehinojos   Sep-30-05 04:40 AM   #30 
  - This sucks-but maybe there's reason to believe tht Fitz doesn't need more?  FourStarDemocrat   Sep-30-05 05:03 AM   #31 
  - That's what I'm hoping. According to Arianna Huffington, there are  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 05:11 AM   #32 
     - Thanks...on the surface it could mean Bolton walks  FourStarDemocrat   Sep-30-05 05:21 AM   #33 
        - Here is Arianna Huffington's reasoning on Bolton not being asked for  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 12:26 PM   #52 
  - she'll be under oath, she won't lie  lanlady   Sep-30-05 05:25 AM   #34 
  - I think you would be right about that and if she lies he can prove  texpatriot2004   Sep-30-05 07:03 AM   #35 
  - the thing is ..she can not lie...she  flyarm   Sep-30-05 01:10 PM   #62 
  - What oath could this criminal take that would prevent her  sfexpat2000   Sep-30-05 07:40 AM   #38 
  - I agree on both your points. She wouldn't hesitate to lie if she were  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 11:56 AM   #46 
  - EXACTLY  LynneSin   Sep-30-05 07:38 AM   #37 
  - Have bolton or fleitz given testimony?  leftchick   Sep-30-05 07:51 AM   #39 
  - Here is what Arianna Huffington said on 9/20 about Bolton NOT testifying:  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 12:02 PM   #47 
     - I certainly hope it is the third option  leftchick   Sep-30-05 12:38 PM   #57 
  - I this point all we can do is  Alizaryn   Sep-30-05 10:48 AM   #43 
  - Well, it better match what Libby, Rove, et al have said.  longship   Sep-30-05 11:23 AM   #44 
  - You're Forgetting Cooper, Novak, Russert etc.  Beetwasher   Sep-30-05 11:31 AM   #45 
  - That's the chief source of my current hopes: "Fitz is not an idiot" and  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 12:35 PM   #55 
  - Judith miller wouldn't know the truth if the truth introduced herself!  autorank   Sep-30-05 12:12 PM   #50 
  - I agree. DeLay was becoming a liability and also OPPOSES SOME OF THEIR  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 12:50 PM   #59 
     - They overestimate their "hold" on the machines.  autorank   Oct-01-05 08:17 AM   #71 
  - He might not need her  mmonk   Sep-30-05 12:13 PM   #51 
  - Those are my hopes. It is striking that Bolton has been left out of the  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 12:31 PM   #54 
  - If Bolton is never addressed in Fitz's probe, I will lose all my faith in  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 12:28 PM   #53 
  - Important new related thread: "Miller Testifies to Grand Jury on CIA Leak"  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 01:06 PM   #61 
  - kick n/t  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 02:27 PM   #63 
  - Wash Post's Froomkin on Miller's decision to testify:  Nothing Without Hope   Sep-30-05 05:03 PM   #64 
  - Judy Was Protecting HERSELF, Not The Source  Beetwasher   Sep-30-05 08:10 PM   #67 
  - Miller is a CIA media asset under Operation Mockingbird.... eom  EVDebs   Sep-30-05 05:28 PM   #65 
  - Why would FitzGerald agree to this, after all this time?  WinkyDink   Sep-30-05 07:35 PM   #66 
  - Arianna Huffington LA Times op/ed: "Who is Judy Miller kidding?"  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-01-05 05:13 AM   #69 
  - It looks like even the NY Times is backing away from supporting her  Marie26   Oct-01-05 01:30 PM   #75 
     - Very interesting. The NYT effort to glorify Miller and cover up the lie  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-01-05 01:41 PM   #76 
  - It's okay.  H2O Man   Oct-01-05 06:23 AM   #70 
  - Thank you, H2O Man. You've lifted my spirits and injected a voice of  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-01-05 12:09 PM   #73 
     - Right now  H2O Man   Oct-01-05 03:41 PM   #77 
        - Why do you say specifically that there is intense anger between offices  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-02-05 12:33 AM   #79 
           - In Wilson's book  H2O Man   Oct-02-05 08:50 AM   #80 
              - Thank you for putting this together. I can't see Rove, Cheney or Bolton  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-02-05 10:02 AM   #82 
  - #3. She's Judith Miller.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Oct-01-05 08:39 AM   #72 
  - Two very important and also encouraging threads add more pieces:  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-01-05 12:49 PM   #74 
  - WaPo Oct 2 on Plame case - Fitz may be going for CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-02-05 12:28 AM   #78 
  - This is an important  H2O Man   Oct-02-05 09:17 AM   #81 
  - I'm putting the finishing touches on my film "Rove's War"  symbolman   Oct-02-05 10:59 AM   #83 
  - Oh WOW!!! To see the whole story put together, to SHOW people the  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-02-05 05:03 PM   #84 
  - This is going to be an interesting week. The indictments may be coming  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-03-05 01:11 AM   #85 
  - While it is possible  H2O Man   Oct-03-05 05:49 AM   #86 
  - Let's hope the dots to the Niger uranium documents are connected. Here is  Nothing Without Hope   Oct-05-05 01:26 AM   #87