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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:28 PM
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Jonah Goldberg says what's on every RWers mind about Delay
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2005/09/28/national-revie...

Despite his well-known penchant for corner-cutting, I'm inclined to give Delay the benefit of the doubt that this is, in fact, a politcally motivated prosecution and all that, though I've still got homework to do.

But man is this a drag. Regardless of the merits, this is going to be long, weedy, partisan argument. Rich's emailer may well be right that there's a big difference between a federal and state indictment. And Im sure his legal eagles point that conspiracy charges like this one tend to be hail Mary passes at best. But this is terrible turf for Republicans to get stuck playing on and tedious for the rest of us. But Ive already announced my melancholia.

more...
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:31 PM
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1. hope that melancholia is followed
by heartburn, gall stones, anxiety attacks :rant:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:08 AM
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8. Heightened suicidal tendancies...
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:32 AM
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16. if we were Japanese and they had any
honor, they would have mass ritual hari kari and we woul dance in the streets and sing ding dong the evil witch is dead.

I guess them having honor is what makes this an impossible scenario.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:36 PM
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2. Isn't Jonah that rethug son of the hideous woman involved in Monika?
If so, why isn't he in uniform in Iraq?

Oh wait, he's "fighting the battle of ideas". Of course.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:25 AM
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7. it is. that is how he got his job I am sure. nt
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:40 PM
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3. So get your flabby white ass down to the recruiter
and go to Iraq you fat pos. You won't have time for no fuckin melancholia. Besides from what I saw elsewhere on this forum the texas indictments are just the tip of the iceberg so better yet why don't you just waste yerself now Jonah?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:44 PM
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4. Yeah, I'll just bet you're gonna
do "your homework", jonah goldberg..like you always do, right?

Uh huh..yeah right.
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:12 AM
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5. whatever it takes
Al Capone wasn't brought down for the really bad things he did, but was brought down for not minding the books...

Hopefully it will be the same for DeLay.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:19 AM
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6. I don't know where
these clowns are coming up with the "Conspiracy is a long shot", "conspiracy is a last ditch effort", "Conspiracy is hard to prove" stuff but it is not based on the reality of criminal prosecutions in this country. Conspiracies are preferred by prosecutors precisely because they are very often easier to prove than any particular criminal act, especially when they are going after a "boss" who is less likely to have actually done any of the heavy lifting in the criminal endeavor.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:32 AM
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9. Grand jury making a "hail Mary pass at best"?
Would all those grand jury members really agree to a big waste of people's time and Texas taxpayers' money on an irresponsible wild shot in the dark? Nah.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 07:18 AM
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10. very low energy on Bill Bennett's radio show
must be a "drag" for poor Bill.

It's mourning in Conservative America again.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:21 AM
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11. Bill 'lucky slots' Bennett? Where does he still have a show? Why?
Every caller to any show he's on should say "hey Bill I hear the high dollar slots in Atlantic City are paying off big this weekend" until they stop having him on TV/radio.
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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:24 AM
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13. Bill "let's abort all the black babies" Bennett
Yeah, one and the same.

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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:13 AM
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12. Jonah, why aren't you "keeping America safe" in IRAQ???
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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:26 AM
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14. Justice is soooooooo tedious.
Why can't we have another good PHONY scandal? Quick, let's make up something about a Dem. Let's see........hey, did you guys know Barak Obama has a white child?

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:28 AM
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15. This is NOT a "Hail Mary Pass", it's a PLEA BARGAIN
DeLay will plea "nolo contendere" because he "under advise and consent of counsel did knowingly, intelligently, and voluntarily" waive the statute of limitations on the conspiracy charge.

You only do that if you're facing much tougher charges that don't have a statute of limitations or a much higher statute of limitations.

It's all right there in the indictment for eveybody to see:

"The Grand Jury further presents that, with the advise and consent of counsel, the defendent, Thomas Dale DeLay, did heretofore knowingly, intelligently, and voluntarily waive application of Articles 12.01 and 12.02 of the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure to the indictment presented herein. In particular, the Grand Jury present that with the advice and consent of counsel, the defendent, Thomas Dale DeLay, did knowingly, intelligently, and voluntarily waive the requirement that an indictment for the felony offense of criminal conspiracy, the object of which is felony other than those listed in Subdivisions (1) and (5) of Article 12.01 of the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, may be presented within three years from the date of commission of the offense, and not afterward, insofar as such requirement pertains to the indictment presented herein,"

Bottom of page three of the indictment:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0928051delay3.html

and the top of page four of the indictment:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0928051delay4.html
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:21 PM
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17. I just find it hilariously ironic
that all these guys call US "conspiracy theorists" and of course Delay gets snatched for CONSPIRACY :)

Sweet..
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