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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:34 PM
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Bennett: you could abort all black babies , crime would go down
I swear, these neocons are getting nuttier by the minute... :wtf:

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Bill Bennett: "You could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down"
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BENNETT: All right, well, I mean, I just don't know. I would not argue for the pro-life position based on this, because you don't know. I mean, it cuts both -- you know, one of the arguments in this book Freakonomics that they make is that the declining crime rate, you know, they deal with this hypothesis, that one of the reasons crime is down is that abortion is up. Well --

CALLER: Well, I don't think that statistic is accurate.

BENNETT: Well, I don't think it is either, I don't think it is either, because first of all, there is just too much that you don't know. But I do know that it's true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could -- if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down. That would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down. So these far-out, these far-reaching, extensive extrapolations are, I think, tricky.
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http://mediamatters.org/items/200509280006
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:36 PM
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1. Holly S****t, they are loosing it.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:37 PM
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4. He needs to be off the air!
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:50 PM
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29. Well, he didn't use any cuss words or show a titty...
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 03:51 PM by tjwash
...so it's perfectly A-OK-fine-dandy for him to say that. :sarcasm:

Billy Jackboot is full of quotes. He's also said such gems as "Casual drug users should be shot... Dealers should be beheaded I have no moral problem with beheading" , and "Hanging works"


The Republican Party doesnt much care for him. He walked out on President Reagan as Secretary of Education, for money. He walked out on Father Bush as Drug Czar, for money. And he walked out on his nomination to chair the RNC for, you guessed it, money.

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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:04 PM
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91. Casual drug users like Limbaugh?
Hey, I could get behind that!

Good lord, these people have taken off the masks, and what is behind the mask is even uglier than what they were showing before, and THAT was so damn ugly the dog had to shut his eyes before humping their legs.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:52 AM
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113. I'd love to see this man live in the dwelling of the worse
slum lord on earth, Bill Bennett just might figure out a few things on his own.

I can think of no other way to wake this piece of shit up!
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:42 PM
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97. VIDEO-Countdown's Worst Person In the World
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:49 AM
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112. Sadly, they are not "losing it." They continue unfettered. But sometimes
... sometimes the mask slips off. That's all that happened. Too many conservatives surround themselves with thinkalikes and lookalikes and, as a cultural group, never question their assumptions or their own infallibility. So it eventually seems like a harmless point to brickheads like Bennett to reflexively equate criminality with being black. He has no idea what kind of harm that sort of hate speech causes. And don't mistake--he did not mean that maliciously, but it's still the worst form of hate speech: the kind that lures others into thinking it's okay to dismiss fellow citizens, fellow humans, solely on the basis of skin color.

It's really me who's losing it. I'm losing the ability to be appalled any more.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:37 PM
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2. How can anybody buy into that crap?
Oh wait, I'm guessing millions do. Sad.
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:39 PM
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9. .
He possibly just recently read "Mein Kampf".
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:41 PM
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96. This is the crap that will make Bush's poll numbers go up. It's
what has kept them up when they should have been in the toilet.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:36 AM
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109. Well, they buy into Bill Bigot's imbecilic books...
... including "The Book of Virtues," and, of course, my favorite:



...um, wait... that's not a compass...
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:10 PM
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133. he had a breast reduction. did you know that?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:25 PM
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134. I heard that Bill Bennett had breast reduction surgery too!
i hope you aren't going around and repeating that Bill Bennett had breast reduction surgery, i mean how would that sound to his followers that Bill Bennett had breast reduction surgery? I'm sure they would be shocked that Bill Bennett had breast reduction surgery.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:30 PM
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135. I'd never repeat it if his breast reduction surgery wasn't absolutely true
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #135
136. I would only say Bill Bennett had breast reduction surgery if it was
true as well.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:32 PM
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137. Some people say that Bill Bennett had breast reduction surgery.
:evilgrin:
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #137
138. well, those people are right,about his breast reduction surgery
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:37 PM
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3. !@#$% MOFO !@#$@
I always knew he was an asshole, and he never disappoints...

:grr: :grr: :grr: :argh: :argh: :argh:
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:37 PM
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5. What they used to say behind closed doors is now out in the open.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #5
39. racism is a curse in this country. God help us if we don't do something
about it. Jon Stewart needs that quote.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:33 PM
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78. I'll venture to say that the KKK is now a 501(c)(3) ...
tax exempt organization posing as the

Council of Conservative Citizens
(just change the "Cs" to "Ks")

http://www.cofcc.org /

one of the state chapters (South Carolina)
http://www.heritagelost.org /

The Conservative Citizens Foundation is a 503 (c)(3) organization
http://www.cofcc.org/foundation/conservative_citizens_f...


The Family Research Council's Tony Perkins ...
~snip~
One of the most disturbing features not listed on Perkins' resume was his involvement in securing the mailing list of Ku Klux Klansman David Duke for a Louisiana Senate campaign he managed in 1996. Four years ago, reporter Max Blumenthal revealed in an April 26, 2005 article for The Nation,

"Perkins addressed the Louisiana chapter of the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC) the successor to the White Citizens Councils, which battled integration in the South."

Blumenthal wrote that in 1996, while Perkins was running the campaign of longtime conservative Woodie Jenkins, the right-wing Republican candidate for the US Senate in Louisiana, he "paid former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke $82,500 for his mailing list."
~snip~

http://www.mediatransparency.org/story.php?storyID=70
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:38 PM
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6. retroactive abortions for neocons might make a big difference
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RageFist Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:35 PM
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65. I second that notion n/t
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:38 PM
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7. Holy Crap!
Aside from the virulently ugly racism of that statement, is he actually arguing FOR abortion? :wtf:
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:38 PM
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8. Lost it long ago
It's just their racist colors are now showing. I'd like to banish this asshole!
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:39 PM
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10. Thanks, Mr. Morality,
for that little nugget. Why don't you go back to Vegas and lose the rest of your money.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:41 PM
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11. Yeah, their fondest wishes always start out that way
Yes Mr. Morality, it would be impossible, ridiculous and morally reprehensible, but oddly enough it's something that's obviously crossed your mind. And how long before it becomes a serious GOP policy assertion, like ending social security, abolishing the estate tax, and legalizing corruption and election theft?
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:41 PM
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12. Now racism is "hip" again.
I'll continue being outside the "clique", thanks.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:41 PM
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13. Well, you could go ahead and kill all first born sons too.
That has a nice biblcal sound to it. Aborting ALL babies would diminish the crime rate even more!!! Why stop there??? surely we can imagine more and funner genocides to commit in the name of reducing crime!!
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:42 PM
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14. I'm currently listening to the audio CD of Freakonomics
And they do not posit that racist position! As Media Matters goes on to explain:

Bennett's remark was apparently inspired by the claim that legalized abortion has reduced crime rates, which was posited in the book Freakonomics (William Morrow, May 2005) by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner. But Levitt and Dubner argued that aborted fetuses would have been more likely to grow up poor and in single-parent or teenage-parent households and therefore more likely to commit crimes; they did not put forth Bennett's race-based argument.

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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:12 PM
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52. The black fetus will grow up to be a "looter"...the white fetus a "finder"
:sarcasm:
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:23 PM
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131. I'm TOTALLY offended--as a black person--I don't normally get offended
by racists.

I read Freakanomics. Their position is that many lower-income people who had abortions may have given birth to children more likely to be criminals. That's a far cry from aborting every black baby in the country.

:wtf:
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:42 PM
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15. Mr. Morality Czar
Bennett, the author of The Book of Virtue is a racist, genocidal neanderthal. Gawd, can these repugs get more reprehensible? Their icon of "family values morality" is a gambler who is known for his all nighters in Vegas.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:43 PM
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16. This needs more recommendations!
And it needs some serious media blasting!

If y'all will excuse me for a moment,
I need to go e-mail the NAACP.
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:43 PM
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17. I think Bill needs to go play a couple hands of blackjack
and chill his nerves.
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:43 PM
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18. Just F*UCKING CRAZY F*CKS!
I swear......I swear, I swear......at a loss for words!

You know what is even more disgusting......wingnuts were nodding in agreement.....Christian F*CKING Repukes nod in agreement to this vile mentality!



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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:43 PM
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19. Disgusting but what's the surprise?
We all KNOW that there are many Americans who feel this way. Most of us know a lot of them because they are our friends, relatives and neighbors.

It amazes me no end that white citizens like this guy Bennet totally ignore white crime, white welfare, etc and play the damned 'BLAME GAME' on blacks...but...it's always been that way.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:43 PM
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20. Actually the book "Freakonomics" equates Roe and decreased crime
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 03:46 PM by fishnfla
*NOTE* not defending Bennet and did not write the book

But its all in there: Freakonomics by Steven D. Levitt. Decrease in crime is due to the passage of Roe v.Wade.

EDIT: no race-based argument is made in the book
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abbiehoff Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:30 PM
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64. I always assumed
that the decreased crime due to Roe v. Wade was because it was no longer a crime to have and/or perform an abortion. Kind of like the bumper sticker that says "If guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns". It's a tautology.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:25 AM
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106. it's a good read
the bit about the business model of a crack dealing organization was amazingly interesting.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:48 AM
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111. Levitt's abortion/crime link has been crushed in the academic lit
Levitt's argument on abortion/crime in Freakonomics is one he'd published before. Other analyses of that work raised serious questions about Levitt's conclusions and the methods used to draw them. Conveniently, Levitt ignores the other scholarship in Freakonomics.
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:44 PM
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21. If you ever needed proof that this is a sick world, this is it!
I doubt if I have ever read such an ugly statement. This man should be banned from this planet. Lord help us, its so offensive, I can hardly find words to express my outrage!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:47 PM
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22. Jesus would weep
these people are THE WORST! ... :grr: :puke: :banghead:
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:47 PM
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23. collaboration with the 'We couldn't fix public housing but God did...:"
...guy?
Who the hell said that anyway? Some Repub hack from Louisiana....please, what's his name?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:48 PM
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25. equaly bad (both comments).
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:55 PM
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36. He's from Baton Rouge. I can't remember his name right now.
I called his office and gave them a piece of my mind about his racist statement. Of course, they said that he wasn't a racist. Right.
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:47 PM
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24. They are losing it.
:wow:
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:49 PM
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26. He's not even technically right.

My first thought was "Well, I suppose that in as much as a statistically significant reduction in the population will presumably lead to a proportional drop in crime, what he actually said (killing all blacks would reduce crime) is correct, even if what he probably meant (blacks are genetically inferior) isn't".

But then it occurred to me that the number of people who *wouldn't* start breaking the law if you make it legally compulsory for all black babies to be aborted is not large. He's talking complete nonsense.
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chopper Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:59 PM
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40. yeh
by aborting all the black children, you remove from the population people whose presence would reduce the per-capita crime rate, right? unless infants commit crimes at a higher rate than the average person...
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:49 PM
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27. Too bad he wasn't aborted.
You can bet he probably wishes slavery was still around. He won't be fired either.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:49 PM
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28. Aborting
trust-fund babies, corporate whores, and lifelong recipents of social promotion would go further to lowering the crime rate.

And not just among 'white-collar' whites - it would also lower the crime rate among the poor and blacks! They wouldn't be so trapped as they are now.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:50 PM
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30. He said that and is still
on air. Damn.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:54 PM
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33. On Faux of course...
Could Faux news get any nuttier?
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Tower Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:10 PM
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49. I believe he said it on his radio show.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:13 PM
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53. That's beyond nutty
I hope Jesse and Al heard him.
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NewInNewJ. Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:51 PM
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31. Bennett and his kind make me vomit.
It is much easier to clean up crime by arresting the crooked, sleazy Republican politicians.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:53 PM
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32. Did he really say that? What a screwball if he did.
?????
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:55 PM
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Someone needs to abort Bennet's teeth with a basball bat.
How dare he even call himself an American.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:55 PM
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34. I've got an even better idea...
...crime would be non-existant if we aborted all babies and killed everyone. And isn't freedom worth the sacrifice?
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:55 PM
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35. WHERE ARE the demands for repubs to disavow this??
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:56 PM
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37. calling FALWELL, ROBERTSON, DOBSON, OPERATION RESCUE
SIGH
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:56 PM
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38. If non-whites were the only ones who had abortions, would the
fundies still get so worked up about it? Doubt it.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:47 PM
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68. Ah, but that's how they keep people in poverty
There's a lot more behind "pro-life" than a supposed concern for fetuses.

They'd just use it as "proof" that non-whites were "savages" or some such.

Their hatred and arrogance knows no bounds. (Or sense.)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:59 PM
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41. if we had no hungry and poor, crime would go down too. dumbshits
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:01 PM
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42. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?1
What a fruitloop. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:02 PM
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43. other "tricky" things: Zeig Heiling, goosestepping, gas chambers
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:04 PM
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44. These Republican bums all have the same DNA, don't they?
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:06 PM
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45. I think that if you aborted every black baby in the country...that crime
would have just taken a massive spike.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:07 PM
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46. Obviously a candidate for Countdown's "worst person in the world."
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:54 PM
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92. And he was!
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:08 PM
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47. If you abort all Republican babies, crime would go down
(e.g. Ken Lay, Tom DeLay, Bill Frist) and more people would be alive right now (Iraqis, Haitians, etc).
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Tower Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:09 PM
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48. He said this on the public airwaves. He should be removed from them.
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 04:12 PM by Tower
Mr. Bennett may not realize it, but blacks are part of the public as well, and this sort of blatantly racist rhetoric- an advocation of genocide one might even say- is about as far from "serving the public interest" as you can get.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:11 PM
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50. Has he been hanging out with pat robertson?
:wtf:
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:11 PM
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51. Hey Bennett-I heard the $1,000 slots in Atlantic City are paying off big
this week! See ya there!
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:13 PM
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54. Billy Jackboot is not liked very well by the repugs as well.
The Republican Party doesnt much care for him. He walked out on President Reagan as Secretary of Education, for money. He walked out on Father Bush as Drug Czar, for money. And he walked out on his nomination to chair the RNC for, you guessed it, money.

Ironically, he is probably the loudest voice in America (besides Robert Bork) crying for censorship at every level, except of course for those who can afford to purchase their free speech.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:14 PM
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55. It's ridiculous and morally reprehensible, BUUUUT...
Well, that just tears it. So much for all the white, Caucasian, male serial killers throughout American history.
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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:18 PM
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56. Does this not constitute hate speech?
Would this not get him pulled off the air? :wtf:

Sorry, I'm Canadian, and I know that this type of comment would not be tolerated on our airwaves.

I thought you had an American version of the CRTC - or do they only deal with nipples??
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:19 PM
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57. By that logic
you could abort all corporate babies, some of whom would grow up under the tutelage of corporate criminals, and BIG TIME white collar crime would go down. An Enron-free world!
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:22 PM
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58. *picks up jaw*
I don't know what amazes me more - that he would think it or that he would say it.

Thinking it - well, the man's a POS, of course he would think it.

But SAYING IT? Has the man no handlers or keepers?

Oh, the laughs just keep on coming.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:23 PM
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59. You mean crime that doesn't involve a three piece bankers suits
and an MBA.

Testosterone is testosterone my friend. Dress it up or down and it still has a tendency, in rare cases, to want to hurt or take from somebody else.

What do you call this huge transfer of wealth from the middle class to the rich?
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:23 PM
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60. I knew that argument was about to get made. I knew it the moment
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 04:27 PM by izzybeans
I read the book. It was inevitable. They'll take it run with it, the freak o repubs. "Well perhaps we shouldn't rethink this roe v wade thing" :sarcasm:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:24 PM
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61. and if you aborted every white baby, crime would go down too
In terms of absolute numbers, there are more whites in prison than African-Americans.

What a total asshat. Maybe if we abort all girl babies, we can end rape. Or all boy babies.

onenote
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:59 AM
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121. More whites in prison? What?
Can you give me a link to that statistic please?
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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:24 PM
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128. These stats are old but...
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/cpracetab.ht...

The trends are shocking, though...

Year White Black Other

1986 2,090,100 1,117,200 32,100
1987 2,192,200 1,231,100 36,300
1988 2,348,600 1,325,700 39,800
1989 2,521,200 1,489,000 45,400
1990 2,665,500 1,632,700 49,800
1991 2,742,400 1,743,300 49,900
1992 2,835,900 1,873,200 53,500
1993 2,872,200 2,011,600 60,200
1994 3,058,000 2,018,000 65,300
1995 3,220,900 2,024,000 90,200
1996 3,294,800 2,083,600 104,500
1997 3,429,000 2,149,900 113,600

More recent info from http://www.hrw.org/backgrounder/usa/incarceration / says the Black prison population is 44%
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:27 PM
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62. Asshole
The thing that bugs me the most is that he'll back pedal as "That was taken out of context!" He knew exactly what he was saying. Some other poster mentioned hate crime, I think that's exactly what comments like those are. It would be like me saying if we aborted all white babies we'd have honest politicians
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:30 PM
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63. may God forgive me-
but I wish his mother had chosen to abort him- he is an ignorant, cruel, bigoted asshole who hides the filth that lives inside him behind his fat white skin-

this 'man' is a disgrace to the human race.

Is this the same bill bennet that wrote the book about morality in america????

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:40 PM
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66. Fuck him and his racist comment
I hope he dies a horrible death!
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:46 PM
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67. Let's just keep pointing out that Bill Bennett is the moral center
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 04:48 PM by Tactical Progressive
of the Republican party, and juxtaposing that with his forced abortion of minorities quote. Those two things should always be mentioned in tandem, like a special boxed set of Republican Virtues, from the man who wrote the book.

Thank you Bill, you finally did something in your life that has moral value - you told us how you think. It's good that guys like you think about things and share them with us. It helps everybody to understand Republican values.

And yes, we understand what you mean when you say 'that wouldn't be right', even if the underlying message is that it would be good.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:48 PM
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69. Well By that Logic We Should Abort Everyone. Crime Rate Zero!
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:49 PM
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70. Is Outrage Still Dead?
Must be, if Mr Virtue can still leave his apartment without getting chased back in.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:57 AM
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116. Outrageousness is clearly alive and living in his batshitcrazy brain
I'll pray for his sanity.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:50 PM
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71. What the FUCK??
I swear to christ, if I ever meet this motherfucker in a dark alley, he'll wish he was aborted...

:mad:
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:50 PM
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72. eugenics? wtf?
What a sick fucker!
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:18 PM
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73. Oh Great......
So not only do we have to be the subjects of some of the most outrageoas racial rumors and stereotypes as a result of a natural disaster,(slitting children's throats and commiting gang rape during a hurricane) but now it's ok to talk openly about committing Black genocide.

Gee Bill, I think if we wanted the moral compass in this country to rise, we might, I don't know, shoot every fucking conservative hypocrite in the head. But these far-out, these far-reaching, extensive extrapolations are, I think, tricky.

Fucking asshole.

Hey Black Conservatives!!!!
If you are preggers, better show up at Planned Parenthood tomorrow to support the cause

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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:02 AM
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122. Amen to that. n/t
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:39 AM
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125. Somebody's a shoe in for top ten conservative idiots...
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:19 PM
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74. No photo ops with Bush for this guy. (n/t)
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:20 PM
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75. This makes me sick to my stomach.
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deebo550 Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:20 PM
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76. Shocking, and yet
I am not surprised in the least. How sickening.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:31 PM
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77. WTF? This isn't race baiting -- it's race hating!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:58 PM
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79. Oh my gawd.
:wow:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:09 PM
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80. Is this a waky theory?
The RW are anti-abortion because the caucasion population is dwindling. They do not want to be overpowered by non-caucasions.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:12 PM
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81. Given their mindset, I'd say no.
:(
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Sunkiss BlueStar Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:31 PM
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82. VIRTUES?
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 06:34 PM by Sunkiss BlueStar
How can anyone support repukes.?

I will keep laughing too keep myself from crying.

:thumbsdown:

nominated and kicked

everyone should see this
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:54 PM
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88. yeah, "The Childrens Book of Virtues ( White Republican Kids)"-
'cliff notes'

"black people are criminals and should be aborted."

What an asshole he is- If he's holding the 'moral compass' he must be one big magnet- the world revolves around HIM-

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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:39 PM
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83. Just how low can we go
That statement is just as low as it gets. :banghead:
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:42 PM
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84. why don't we retroactively abort everyone...
that'll solve a bunch of problems
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LeinesRed Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:48 PM
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85. Would he put money on that claim?
Sorry...couldn't resist
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:53 PM
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86. Good christ

Is there anything LEFT for them to SAY?
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:53 PM
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87. What!?
Jesus on a trailer hitch! Is September Look What a Racist I Am Month?
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:56 PM
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89. Yeah...there are no rascists in the Republican party...
Riiiiiiight...

On the same token...if we abort all Republican babies will that make government corruption go down?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:00 PM
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90. Since there is no reasoning or educating that kind of ignorance
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 07:00 PM by Solly Mack
I would dearly love to slap that piece of shit silly...repeatedly and often, on a schedule, and with a rusty nail peppered piece of old splintered wood.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:06 PM
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93. That was not what was said in "Freakonomics".
I just so happen to be reading that book on the side while studying econ at UW Madison and the point was not about black babies. The point was that babies who would normally be born into poverty and dysfunctional families that would produce people more likely to committ crimes were being aborted and hadn't been before. The author did not single out black babies, hispanic babies, white babies, or any such thing. Bennett just happened to see it that way because he is a rascist pig.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 07:49 AM
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102. I agree. I was working at Planned Parenthood when that book
came out. Several coworkers had a visceral, negative reaction to the authors' assertion. Even tho the authors did disavow any racist implication, it was felt by many of us in the prochoice movement that this argument was NOT good for our cause.

Personally, I have stayed away from the argument that legal, safe abortion prevents unwanted kids from growing up to be a societal problem because the prolifers jump all over you and you spend a lot of time on the defensive. Besides, there are lots of other excellent arguments for the prochoice side, ones that put the prolifers on the defensive!
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:06 PM
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94. Just putting feelers out...
Introduce the idea and talk about how crazy it is. But still, the idea is out there. On so-called "mainstream" media, thus it's a legitimate thought.

:sarcasm:



I can't believe anyone could even think this, much less say it aloud!
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:17 PM
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95. Do you have a list of the radio stations that air this racist filth?
Are any of them remotely vulnerable to boycott, lttes etc? He should be fired by somebody. Maybe us? How do we do it?
Or is his show only on Family Life Network???? Do they care that he has said such a thing? The author of the book of virtues has once again shown he has none.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:43 PM
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98. How is he not fired? I just heard it and i'm beyond shocked.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:44 PM
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99. You could abort every Republican in congress and crime would go down
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 08:47 PM by bushmeat
But that would be unfair because most of the black babies parents love them.

:rofl:
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:13 PM
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100. Well, praise be...
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 11:17 PM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...I've been praying day and night that God would send somebody forward with just the right words to help heal us as a nation, mend this great divide and all the suffering left in the wake of Katrina---leave it to Mr. Slots-allot, thanks-a-million, Bill.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:20 AM
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101. kick
:kick:
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persp Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:20 AM
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103. Relevant passage
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 08:21 AM by persp
Oddly enough, I just bought that book last night and have it in my possession. In case anyone's interested, I've transcribed the relevant passage below:

So how did Roe v. Wade help trigger, a generation later, the greatest crime drop in recorded history?

As far as crime is concerned, it turns out that not all children are born equal. Not even close. Decades of studies have shown that a child born into an adverse family environment is far more likely than other children to become a criminal. And the millions of women most likely to have an abortion in the wake of Roe v. Wade--poor, unmarried, and teenage mothers for whom illegal abortions had been too expensive or too hard to get--were often models of adversity. They were the very women whose children, if born, would have been much more likely than average to become criminals. But because of Roe v. Wade, these children weren't being born. This powerful cause would have a drastic, distant effect: years later, just as these unborn children would have entered their criminal primes, the rate of crime began to plummet.

It wasn't gun control or a strong economy or new police strategies that finally blunted the American crime wave. It was, among other factors, the reality that the pool of potential criminals had dramatically shrunk.
Buy it at BN!

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LizMoonstar Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:25 AM
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105. i want this book
also, i believe that the book is structured as to have no advice or prescriptive sense - i.e. they're reporting weird trends, not giving suggestions mr. stupid bennett...
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LizMoonstar Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:23 AM
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104. you know, this is a good thing.
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 08:24 AM by LizMoonstar
now the reds have to decide which they like more: loving fetuses or hating black people!

commence with the burnination! their heads will explode!

oh shi black fetuses, didn't think of that!


oh btw i like to call them reds because america already has a history of not liking people called reds :)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:27 AM
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107. If he didn't think it was accurate why did he say it?
What an asshole. If he looks at the Bush administration there you go. Why there's white people there! Look at Tom DeLay and the people in the Nixon administration. :eyes: This guy is a loser and is a racists and needs to get over himself!
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:30 AM
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108. Not originally Bennetts thought..
You know a group supporting abortion came up with this statistic, I've got to find who and when...it was in a newspaper article stating that crime has gone done as abortions have been made more available. At the time I winced while reading it....sometime in the last three years. My leg injury seems to be effecting my brain.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:54 AM
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115. He credits it to Steven Levitt,
in the book Freakonomics, not a "group supporting abortion", although it appears Lucky Bill threw in the racial element, since the original idea I guess wasn't quite twisted and evil enough.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:09 PM
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148. yes....freakonomics...
I remember...thanks. Although I thought the original remark though not directly racial, had those implications. Don't think it's an appropriate statistic to use regardless.
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Iktomiwicasa Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:40 AM
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110. His kind are nothing new, why are you surprised?
Native women were subject to forced sterilization through through the 1960's.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:52 AM
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114. It's not malicious, but it's sure hate speech of the worst variety
You could abort all Republican babies and the hate speech rate would go down. (But it still would be wrong).
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:30 AM
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117. What would Ronnie be thinking? (nt)
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DemoVet Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:32 AM
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118. Maybe this could be an episode on that goofy cartoon show
"Adventures From the Book of Virtues" that's based on his book. Jeez, how far up your ass can you stick your head before you totally disappear into another dimension? I think Bill "the Whale" Bennet may be approaching that point.
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PinkyisBlue Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:32 AM
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119. Hate Speech
First of all, this statement brings out into the open the right-wing agenda. With each statement they make, it's becoming clearer that these people are racists. If I was a black person, I would be very angry right now (Clarence Thomas, are you there)?

Second of all, "crime" seems to be a relative term, and it depends on who you know, what color your skin is, and how much money you make as to whether you have committed a crime or not.

Limbaugh illegally purchased massive amounts of a controlled substance; isn't that a crime?

DeLay has been indicted on conspiracy and money laundering charges; isn't that a crime?

George Bush lied to Congress and the American people about Iraq and WMDs, thereby initiating a deadly, disastrous war; isn't that a crime?

Frist committed insider trading; isn't that a crime?

Karl Rove leaked the name to the press of a covert CIA agent; isn't that a crime?

The answer to all of the above is yes, they are all crimes, but the difference is that not one of the above (and countless other "white-collar" criminals) have been made to account for their crimes. Yet these crimes hurt all of us. All of us will be getting less money in our mutual fund, IRA and 401K accounts, our politicians are more accountable to the big-money corporations than to each individual citizen (which is why the bankruptcy bill was recently passed), we are less secure in the "war on terror", thousands of innocent American soldiers and Iraqi people are dead or maimed, billions of tax dollars have been diverted to the Iraqi war and to large, connected corporations and not to needed programs and services here at home, our National Guard members are off fighting halfway around the world instead of helping out locally when disaster strikes, and our democracy is that much more insecure with each infraction.

So shut up about crime, Bill Bennett. You're a racist, elitist moron.

I declare that you are only 2/5 of a whole person.
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mattomjoe Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:41 AM
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120. this is what happens when an inside republican voice
becomes and outside voice
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:12 AM
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123. Abort all rich white babies and crime would go down too.
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:15 AM
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124. Can't happen here. Forget about it.
Didn't they used to call that sort of thing genocide? There's a brutal predatory predisposition behind flippant remarks like that. And it comforts little that in my country, the unthinkable is openly discussed like this as a mere theoretical exercise.

:grr:
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volitionx Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:51 AM
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126. The Conservatives/Neocons are a SCOURGE
Well, at least it's good that they're showing their true colors. Eventually these pigfuckers (no offense intended to actual pigs) will be seen for what they are, by a critical mass that will take them DOWN.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 12:39 AM
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150. Neat pic of Robertson!


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Orion The Hunter Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:03 PM
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127. Did he miss the talking points from Mehlmann?
I love how idiots like Mehlmann keep saying how the GOP is friendly to minorities, blacks in particular, and yet you have whackos like this under the GOP tent....
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:53 PM
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129. Has there been any comment in the MSM on this, or did they as usual
blow it off to talk about the missing white girl in Aruba?
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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:40 PM
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139. Bennett was Keith Olberman's
Worst Person in the World, yesterday. The abortion statement was mentioned.
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zonkra Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:19 PM
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130. Or...
you could just abort every Republican baby, and the current crime wave in the U.S House and Senate would go down.
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vkobaya Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:43 PM
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132. Bennett Racism
How is it that racism is moral but being Black is a capital offense. This is the donkey who wrote the Book of Virtues and then was exposed as a high stakes gambler with loses in the millions. He lies now and says he was never addicted, but loses of millions isn't what most of us would call not addicted. Somehow, I wouldn't call lying (or racism) a virtue.

Vicki
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MaraJade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:45 PM
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140. If you could abort all the redneck babies. . .
you could get rid of NASCAR.

What an idiotic and racist statement. Not to mention just plain stupid.

Sheesh!
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stormmoon1978 Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:48 AM
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141. .....
This guy's a dick. Makes me kind of sick that I breathe the same aire as he does...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:51 AM
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142. Showing their true racist colors
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:57 AM
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143. There is NO word for this!
As a white person, this makes me sick to the core of my soul! I can't even imagine if I were a Black person and heard this!! How do people think that racism is dead in this country?!?!
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:03 AM
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144. The bastard has gone on to repeatedly reaffirm the statement
including on Hannity where he claimed to have done more for "these people" than any member of the Black Caucus.

This country is racist to its core, the racism of the NOLA disaster is still further evidence and actually this Bennett asshole is indicating how many, many, many people think.

They are enemies and no one here should rest until these people are defeated and in hiding in the shadows and kept there.
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:12 AM
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145. What he is really suggesting is genocide...in Europe he would be
fined or arrested for saying this.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:09 AM
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146. Abort all MALE babies
and get rid of war. Oh, wait...that would make it kind of hard to reproduce humans, wouldn't it?
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:29 PM
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147. Because they've built a media machine that will cover for any stupid
thing they say or do, the things they say and do will only get more stupid.

They walk off the edge of the cliff, blind to any feedback, telling themselves it's the most brilliant step they could possibly take.

The evil movement that calls itself conservative assumes wealthy white male christian supremacy, without even thinking.

They are always going on about others inferiority, and about how they are the most discriminated against group possible.

They play to such prejudices.

Others are welcome, as long as they're willing to kiss wealthy white male christian butt.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:20 PM
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149. Fuck Bennett, Fuck the White House, and...
...fuck all of his apologists.

My Rant on the matter





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