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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:50 PM
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I am so disapointed in DUers tonight.
I am sitting here in my chair just watching all the threads about California and all the "hate" California threads popping up, and I must say I am really disapointed in every single DUer who is either calling everyone fools in CA, or calling for a mass boycott of CA.

For christ sake we are adults here. We are all meant to be on the same side. Yet we have people turning against those in California for something that wasn't their fault.

If we all start turning on each other now, then just think of the mess that is going to create in next years election. But by all means if you want to see Bush* win next year, then keep acting like the children you are. But I for one don't want to see that asshole win.

Nothing worse than an enemy with in.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:52 PM
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1. I concur.
From the looks of the data YES is only going to get 50%-60% of the vote. Yet ALL Californians are held responsible.

:wtf:
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:52 PM
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2. now you know how us southerners feel
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:03 PM
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15. Agreed, syrinx9999. . .
As a lifelong Californian, I've had to put up with idiotic statements about my state my entire life, same as Southrons must endure about their history and culture. On these boards, where one enters expecting a modicum of tolerance and acceptance of the new and unknown, I've found quite a fair share of "morans" (and they come with all number of 'post' counts).
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:10 PM
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22. you're nice
:hi:
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:19 PM
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26. Yep, that resonates as clear as a bell!
That might be the point that I remember most about tonight -- thanks for helping me understand my own biases.

Yours in solidarity syrinx9999! :pals:
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:24 PM
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27. Thanks
It's nice to have a comment taken as memorable!

Californians and southerners unite. lol. :)
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:54 PM
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3. Don't be dissappointed....
You are seeing the results of anger and dissappointment. Just give people the opportunity to blow off some steam, because that's all that is going on.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:55 PM
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4. Chill with the generalizations.
If there's something you don't understand...just ask. I'll be happy to speak to the local Bay Area scene. (DU seems to be slow tonight...so be patient please)

How about some acknowledgement to those of us who've been busting our asses to defeat the repuke coup? Dang.

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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:57 PM
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6. Yeah! I voted No and Bustamante. What do you wanna do
kick my butt?
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:01 PM
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12. Incase you didn't notice...
...I am actually defending all of you who have put in the effort to defeat the repukes. I am also defending every CA DUer.

I don't have any questions. I am just trying to make DUer see reason. Instead of blaming everyone and boycotting the state of CA, how about working together so this doesn't happen next year. We don't need to become enemies now.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:06 PM
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My post is in solidarity with you foreigncorrespondent...
I'm not busting your chops here. I'm addressing the larger DU community. Damn, I guess we're all a bit edgy tonight.

Peace and thanks! :hi:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:24 PM
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28. I'm with you there.
Imagine how we lib/dems felt when bunkerboy took Nevada.

Nuff said.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:04 PM
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17. I thought he meant those getting upset with Californians??
Which I have seen some of here tonight. Sorry, guys. I can't believe it happened. Those of you here worked hard, we know that. I cringe when people keep condemning Florida as well.

Sorry.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:59 PM
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8. I saw 2 of them
put on your glasses.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:02 PM
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14. Then you just haven't seen them
And you certainly have no room to talk about starting ignorant threads.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:06 PM
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18. HERE!!!!
California! The state of fools. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Boycott California if Arnold takes over! http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


Hmmmm! Yeah I really am hallucinating.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:08 PM
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19. Gee thanks.
I heard they're looking for you over in Late Breaking News...
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HitmanLV Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:57 PM
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7. kudos
you win some and lose some.

Davis could not defend his record. It happens.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:59 PM
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9. As a Floridian, and a lifetime Southerner, I feel your pain.
I think it is mostly anger speaking right now, but my heart goes out to CA folks so much. I thought a steamroller had come in 2000 and in 2002 here. I know how they feel.

My heart goes out to all of you in California. There is just not much else to say tonight.

DU has been doing a lot of self-destructive things lately.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:10 PM
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23. I'm a New Yorker and I feel for both of you.
This is not such a wonderful victory for Republicans anyway. The groping and Nazi stories are not going to go away. I do predict that there will be a media honeymoon, much as there was for Jess Ventura. The media will talking about a "breath of fresh air" and pretending that the nuts who pushed this recall and dumped Arnold into Californians laps are California. But we know from our beloved Californians in this group that the media are full of shit and gas.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:59 PM
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10. I am disappointed as well. It's not as if CA DUers had anything to do
with this so it is especially inappropriate not to mention insensitive to have all this hostility directed at CA Dems here on DU. The CA Dems on this forum for the most part fought this and recognized it for the power grab that it was. We do have a lot of fools here tonight, and they are not from CA.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:27 PM
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29. LOL.
Thanks Booberdawg. I can't believe that the taste in my mouth is sour grapes -- it must be something else. Darrell Issa :puke:
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:30 PM
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31. To Darrell Issa and arnie
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:00 PM
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11. So sorry Californians - I feel for you (Jeb Bush is my Governor)
and he was re-elected despite my best efforts too. My advice - don't listen to the news for a while.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:01 PM
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13. well i`m moving to cali
it`s now the land of milk and honey. millions of new jobs,no taxes,and it never rains in southern california. dam i`m packing right now....
yup now the dumb son of a bitch has to run the state and make good on all his promises,while working with a guy he insulted and a government that is democratic...who`s the dumb ass going to blame when it all becomes another pile of shit he`ll have to shovel?
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:30 PM
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32. Oh, those GOP bastards could fall in a pile of shit and...
come up with 2 gold watches! :shrug: Whatcha gonna do?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:03 PM
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16. I agree, but people are people
They are venting.

We are venting, in our way.

And I am not sure that there is a fucking thing we can do against the onrushing hand of history, which seems to irrevocably point, ironically, to the failed Empires of the past.

But I am not giving up! We must not give up!
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:10 PM
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21. venting
yup, and it will only cost Californians $9 billion!

Way to go Enron!

haha!
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:12 PM
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24. You're absolutely right tom_paine.
The progressive voices always prevail. Just ask Fannie Lou Hamer!
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Girlfriday Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:09 PM
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20. I'm feel so bad for all our Californian DUers tonight
I just don't understand how the race can be called...there are still 3 million absentee ballots right? Maybe they're jumping the gun.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:12 PM
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25. I think people are just angry with no place to put that anger
I know that's how I've felt all day long today. It's still not appropriate to mistreat californian DUers, but I think I understand..
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:27 PM
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30. Agreed
Native Californian here. 4th generation.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:09 AM
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33. Considering
Some moron just started a FUCK YOU DEMOCRATS thread (that got deleted btw) and said they were leaving the party, looks like this thread needs a kick.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:31 AM
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34. I agree with you - and remember
they still bad mouth us down here in Florida for 2000.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:37 AM
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36. I just don't understand it.
I don't understand why they feel the need to bad mouth dems in Fla, CA, or greens, period.

Nothing could have been done to stop selection 2000 from happening, and nothing could have been done to stop the theft of CA.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:36 AM
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35. You mean "some" DU'ers, right?
As we didn't ALL engage in the California bashing.

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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:38 AM
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37. Yes I mean the ones who...
...took part in the bashing.
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