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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:47 PM
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Remember this. A GRAND JURY indicted DeLay. Ronnie Earl did not.
Ronnie Earl presented the charges. A grand jury consisting of people of both parties indicted DeLay.

Does anyone know how many people were seated on this Grand Jury? I am sure people of both parties sit on it.
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:51 PM
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1. I heard 12
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:55 PM
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5. In that case, using Delays redistricting standards
that would amount to 11 Republicans, and 1 Democrat.
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:02 PM
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12. LOL Good one!
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:51 PM
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2. I think we need to BROADCAST that very point! Excellent !!!!!
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:52 PM
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3. this is the PERFECT comeback to what Repukes are saying!!!
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:55 PM
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4. Yes, that is what we need to say... 12 Grand Jury Indicted Delay!
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:55 PM
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6. yes, it bears repeating ad naseum
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:56 PM
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7. Damn that activist Grand Jury! Why do they hate America?
:rofl:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:59 PM
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8. Please rec so that we can get this very important talking point out.
Thanks for the nominations already.
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savannahana Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:02 PM
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9. excellent point, & duly nominated n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:02 PM
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10. Nominated.
Very important point. It is far more damaging to Delay than he wants the public to realize.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:03 PM
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13. You bet it is! He is in up to his eyeballs!!!
Peace.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:02 PM
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11. Yes, a partisan vengeful democratic godless Grand Jury.
soon to be followed, no doubt, by a partisan vengeful judge and biased, hateful petit jury and a democratically inspired prison term.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:05 PM
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14. HEY DU-ERS.. What can we do to get the word out?. This a great rebuttal!!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:08 PM
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15. I sent it in to MSNBC Live on their email form below the poll.
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:11 PM
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16. Thanks For Posting This
IT's been on my mind all day and I wondered if anyone was going to bring it up.

Kudos to you Maddy!


:kick:

Nominated

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:16 PM
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17. Here's the MSNBC Live email link.
Scroll down to the bottom of the page and send your comments.


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3080261 /
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:05 PM
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21. Thanks! I just emailed them!
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:22 PM
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18. Link to the Grand Jury indictment ( Yes a jury of his American peers)
IN THE NAME AND BY AUTHORITY OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
THE GRAND JURY OF THE COUNTY OF TRAVIS, STATE OF TEXAS, duly selected, organized, sworn, and charged as such at the April term, A.D., 2005, of the 147th Judicial District Court of said county, in said court at said term, upon their oaths do present that on or about the thirteenth day of September, A.D., 2002, in the County of Travis and State of Texas,

JOHN DOMINICK COLYANDRO,
JAMES WALTER ELLIS, AND
THOMAS DALE DELAY,
the defendants herein, with the intent that a felony be committed, did enter into an agreement with one or more of each other or with a general purpose political committee known as Texans for a Republican Majority PAC that one or more of them would engage in conduct that would constitute the offense of knowingly making a political contribution in violation of Subchapter D of Chapter 253 of the Texas Election Code....


The full indictment in pdf format
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/statesman/pdf/092805_delayind...

And a nice little collection of the whole sordid story time-line.
Election finance investigation
http://www.statesman.com/metrostate/content/metro/elxpa...

Sonia


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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:33 PM
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19. Thanks for posting this.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:10 PM
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22. Would make a good short note to Cafferty at
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 05:11 PM by karlrschneider
caffertyfile@cnn.com

K&N
edit: maybe not right now, he's asking about the Katrina Response, probably wouldn't read anything about Bugman...
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:10 PM
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23. So why didn't Tom accuse the grand jury of dirty partisan politics?
Is he afraid? :scared:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:12 PM
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25. That was a slap in the face of every Texan.
I hope Texans realize that.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:26 PM
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28. Damn right.
It sure doesn't show much respect for the justice system in Texas (or anywhere for that matter).
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:12 PM
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24. Yes, good point, but it doesn't matter what their talking points are
The GOP can (and will) talk until they're blue in the face about how unfair Ronnie Earl is and so on.

Let them explain it to the jury that will be seated to hear the charges against Tom DeLay.

So we're kind of at one of those "who cares what you think" moments. It doesn't matter now. It's up to a judge and a jury.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:13 PM
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26. Why does everyone know Ronnie Earl's party affiliation
but only people that follow politics closely know that Ken Starr is a movement conservative closely allied with the NeoCon powerbase?
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:14 PM
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27. Kudos!
Excellent point, kick and nominated for OUR talking points :)

:kick:
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:28 PM
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29. Hey, hey...
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