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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:40 PM
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It's actually a sad day when an important congressman is indicted
It reminds us that we are forced to put our faith and trust in the judgment and leadership of a cheap crook like that, and the poor decisions he has made that affect so many people here and around the planet. It is even sadder to realize that he isn't the only bad one.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:42 PM
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1. It doesn't take an indictment to remind me
That this country is being run by crooks.
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:42 PM
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2. Don't pee on this parade
You depict the status quo. Today is about hope that the system works (be it slowly)
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:06 PM
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18. I agree. I'm a little perturbed by the naysayers on this......
board that keep pointing out that there is still Rove and Brown and Rumsfeld, etc.

Do they expect every evil-doer in the repuke party to be indicted on the same day????????????
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:30 PM
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33. I agree.
We have been through thousands of bad days since * was selected--actually before that. I hope all of these depressing years of having to watch a criminal organzation "run" this country will show folks that we need a new way of doing things. The old way is worn out and totally corrupt.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:44 PM
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3. I feel bad when I run over a squirrel, but not when I step on a cockroach.
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 01:46 PM by Atman
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:45 PM
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4. Ha Ha! Perfect analogy!!
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:45 PM
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5. I never put my "faith and trust in the judgement and leadership" of Delay
Or any other other Repuke, for that matter. There have always been corrupt politicians and there always will be.

I suppose if you had an idealist perception of gov to start, you'd be saddened and disappointed, but I doubt many are that idealistic.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:46 PM
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6. don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
it's a great day
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:46 PM
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7. Freepers (and Coulter) disagree
To: sheikdetailfeather; rdb3

Ann Coulter: "If you are a Republican in Washington and you haven't been indicted, you are doing something wrong."

I love that comment!

508 posted on 09/28/2005 10:37:36 AM PDT by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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dretceterini Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:57 PM
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8. Unfortunately
I don't think anything more serious will happen with DeLay than did with Martha Stewart.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:01 PM
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12. A felony conviction is serious
Very serious.

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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:11 PM
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20. Well, and the fact that is "career" in politics is over.
Then there's the backlash this will have on the Republican Party, that's a nice bonus.

Having him spend a bit of time in a fed prison and then wearing an ankle bracelet for a few months would just be the icing on the cake after that.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:00 PM
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11. Well, then,
we just have to wait for the indictments of Fuckface and Cheney and the rest of them, so that we can know that they're doing it all right.

Right?

OK. I got time .........................
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:06 PM
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16. Freepers believe Ann is one of the most beautiful women on this planet
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:59 PM
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9. Rejoice -- with exposure could come change
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:00 PM
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10. Yes but it's a happy happy day when an asshole shithead is indicted
:D
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:02 PM
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You have a point there. It's taken way too long for this to happen
He has caused a great deal of damage to the country in the mean time.
The "work" he did on redistricting Texas will be felt for many years to come.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:02 PM
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13. It's a good day when the system starts to work again
It's sad that there are crooked Congresscritters, but we've always known there were. It was even sadder that our government did nothing to stop them. The indictment of someone we knew was corrupt is a good thing, and a promising, optimistic moment.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:02 PM
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14. Yeah. It is.
In the larger sense, you are right. The Senate and the House are supposed to be honorable institutions, not dens of thieves. I agree. It is a sad measure of the corruption that has destroyed so much of what is supposed to be good in America.

On the other hand, it is good that no man is above the law.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:05 PM
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15. Thanks, I was beginning to think that I am just too old school
for this stuff anymore.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:13 PM
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21. It's funny
(well, it's not) but I remember Watergate, and how my father -- who was from an immigrant, FDR family with union activists -- was crushed. He had really liked LBJ, and was no fan of Nixon. But when Watergate unfolded, it just affected him like a punch to the gut. He knew that "local" politicians were liars and thieves, and he knew that politics was a tough game. But he wanted to believe that all Americans had a sense of ethics and morals and honor.

It is hard, perhaps especially for people too young to really remember the experience of Watergate, to remember that time in our history. The idea of a book like "Profiles in Courage" being written about today's politicians would be a sad joke. People become jaded.

Sometimes I think Robert Byrd is the only one who really appreciates what the Congress is supposed to be. Well, Teddy Kennedy, too.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:06 PM
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17. It's sad unless it's DeLay or another Repug.
Then it's a happy, happy day!!!
This is good news. It makes me very, very happy.

:woohoo: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :woohoo:
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:07 PM
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19. I'm 'reminded' every freaking day!
It doesn't take an indictment for that.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:06 PM
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22. I don't think so.
It's a reminder that no one man is (theoretically) above the law.

Basically, it's a reminder that we are a nation of laws, not Republicans.
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:10 PM
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23. Being sad about this one seems a bit naive (sorry, but it assumes
too much idealism on politicians' pursuit of power)
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:11 PM
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24. And it will take years, if ever, to undo the harm that's been done.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:16 PM
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25. Yes just like the buckets of tears of deep heart felt sadness
I will be crying when Mr. Rove is led away from the White House in handcuffs for treason.


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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:34 PM
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26. No, I disagree
It's much sadder when crooked politicians just go along with their crooked "business as usual" and DON'T get indicted. Today is a good day.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:41 PM
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27. Oh, give up on the piousness already.

Congress represents The People all too accurately. A corrupt Congress is a logical outcome of a corrupted and/or deluded society. Don't add a defensive piety to the delusiveness.

"America has no natural criminal class, except Congress." Mark Twain, ~1870. This is a country of a colonial economic system, it literally doesn't work without moral abuses and public lying and legalized corruption- because that is what colonialism simply is.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:48 PM
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29. OK you win, it's all for shit and we ought to elect them and
then get ready to put them in jail as a matter of course. What difference does any of it make anyway, the whole fucking world is just a pile of shit.

Better?
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:54 PM
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30. Oh, of course.

Let's level everything and pretend that there are no distinctions whatsoever.

Look, we live in a representative democracy. You denied the 'representative' part and I pointed out that it is sadly representative of a lot of Americans.

There's still the 'democracy' part, which gets the proportions of it right when The People decides the proportions are off.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:02 PM
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31. Yes, the criminals ought to be fairly represented with their own
identifiable leadership in the congress, since they form a sizable segment of the population.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:23 PM
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32. I can't figure out

which part of the word 'democracy' you appear to have so much difficulty with.

Are you saying that there's some group of people, aka 'criminals', that is somehow genuinely distinguishable from the population at large?

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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 04:41 PM
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28. Not when the "important congressman" is a crook
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