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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 07:17 PM
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Smith gave alleged courthouse shooter drugs
"ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- Ashley Smith, the woman who says she persuaded suspected courthouse gunman Brian Nichols to release her by talking about her faith in God, discloses in a new book that she gave him methamphetamine during the hostage ordeal."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/books/09/27/courthouseh...

Oopsie!
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 07:19 PM
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1. Ah!
The methamphetamine driven life!
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 07:22 PM
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2. LOL!
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 07:26 PM
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3. It is as if..
.... the Universe is plotting to topple the fundie's sacred beliefs one at a time. :evilgrin:
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 07:32 PM
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4. Bwahahaha! She must've read "The Purpose-Driven Meth"
I understand it's a favorite read of Preznit Bunnypants W. McSmirkster...
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 07:32 PM
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5. she's a fundy crackhead..
"She writes that she asked Nichols if he wanted to see the danger of drugs and lifted up her tank top several inches to reveal a five-inch scar down the center of her torso -- the aftermath of a car wreck caused by drug-induced psychosis. She says she let go of the steering wheel when she heard a voice saying, "Let go and let God.""

umm.... no thanks

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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 07:50 PM
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6. "So uh, Brian. How'd you like to get high?"
I know psychologists say that hostages bond with their captors and all, but that's going too far!

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Mike_The_Computer Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 08:02 PM
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7. Groveling for one's life does not one an angel make.
Especially if said grovelling requires friggin' crystal from one's personal drug stash. Why wasn't this lady charged with possession?
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 08:13 PM
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8. Meth: the fundie drug of choice?!
I wonder if crank is the reason so many fundies are delusional :shrug:
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 08:18 PM
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9. I don't know, but I do believe that many fundies
need the extra structure and discipline that religion can provide because they know they are weak and will succumb to dangerous temptations without it. But it pisses me off that they are often arrogant enough to believe that all the rest of us must share the same weaknesses, and therefore our earthly laws should reflect those of Jeebus.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:49 AM
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25. That's why many addicts go from drugs to Fundamentalism
One addiction to another.... Alec Baldwin also said this about his brother, Stephen. It's true -- I've known alot of people like that.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 08:28 PM
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10. When I saw her on television, I thought she looked really ragged
This was well after they had rounded up the guy, and she had on nice clothes, but her skin and eyes just looked "off." This explains it!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 08:29 PM
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11. Praise the Lord and pass the Ice! LMAO
lololololololololol
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:19 PM
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13. And God said - Let there be Crystal Meth!
Seriously though.. I'm sure God wanted her to have that meth. I mean, it did save her life. :eyes:
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:43 PM
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16. Drugs AND Jeebus are better than just Jeebus alone!
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:13 PM
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12. You do what you gotta do, but...
Giving meth to a crazed killer ain't the smartest move. Of course if his enhanced psychosis allowed him to swallow that christian bullshit, then good for her.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:24 PM
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14. Does meth mellow users out? It makes more sense than recycled religion
instantly convincing a vicious murderer letting her go after killing and maiming so many others.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:47 PM
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17. Meth is pure EVIL ... the Nazi's used amphetamines like
it during the 40s. Yes, do you want to be buzzed? Uptight? Paranoid? Then Depressed?

Nope?

Then be sure to stay the hell off of meth and/or any other of the "stimulants" ... well caffeine excluded, but of course. :P
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 10:49 PM
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19. I have read about hitler and his drug habit
I don't know much about this sort of thing. I always figured I felt dumb enough without using chemicals that damage brain cells to using anything stronger than caffine :b
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 10:57 PM
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20. Oh no, we're all A OK when sober and in control of our
judgement. Like I tell the teens, "if you want to act stupid and feel ashamed later, GET DRUNK!" ;)

That's an excellent decision. Alcohol does not tend to be as addictive as stimulants, but I can do without both. Hey, I'm the mom of a pre-teen. I have many reasons to get up EARLY and down some Jack Daniels, but I continue to resist. LOL
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:24 PM
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15. books sales went up after the book's role was reported
I wonder if meth sales will go up now.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:55 PM
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18. I hope and PRAY that is NOT true ...
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 09:58 PM by ElectroPrincess
I was an addiction counselor in the Republic of Panama during the early 90s. You could (I was told by many troops) buy an ounce of cocaine for $5-$6 if you had a good source.

I treated some very "hard cases" and it breaks your heart. Like Meth Amphetamine, Cocaine is a stimulant. Please remember that what is chemically "brought up" MUST "come down."

That is, even if you're one for the fortunate few who thoughtfully continues to "work your program" and stay off the Meth, the ensuing depression due to your brain chemistry having been altered, may very well last the REST OF YOUR LIFE.

I hate that term, "Just say NO!" However, please help yourself, your family, and your friends through the "difficult times" so that you can all have the strength NOT to give in to such horrid drug use, i.e., resist self-medication.

/rant off

-edited due to some goofy spelling / grammar type errors :P
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 11:02 PM
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21. Lots of jerks on this board
Any opportunity to attack Christians is a good opportunity for some DUers, apparently.

Is she quoted as being some kind of 'Bush-loving, you're going to Hell fundie'? Is she coming to your house to shove a Bible down your throat?

Pathetic.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:28 AM
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22. You're so right
us DU'ers should leave those poor crank-snorting Christians alone...tsk, tsk. After all, it's not like we had a 24-7 shoving down OUR throats of the "heroic exploits" of this brave Christian woman who clearly demonstrated that her God was better than all of ours.....er, no wait, we did. And little Ashley Crankhead played right along with it...otherwise, she would have piped up on her first of a gazillion guest spots on Larry King that she ran plum out of coffee for her guest and decided to offer him some spare meth she just happened to have in the pantry.

Victimhood is so unbecoming of Christians....I imagine you'll post next of when you'll be thrown to the lions.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 09:54 PM
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28. You may be representative of a rabid DU minority
but you sure aren't representative of Democrats in general. It also sounds like you have an anger management problem.

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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:33 AM
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23. The issue for me is more that she was turned into a hero
by so many so-called Christians. She may be a pawn, but she is definitely in play, and she is taking advantage of her situation.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:55 AM
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27. Exactly -- RW Christians were all over TV fawning over her
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 07:55 AM by LostinVA
And how her faith in God miraculously both shielded her from death AND flowed into her captor like some kind of holy electricity. And this was served up with a big dose of "ha ha, Godless, evil Liberals." Now we know she gave him ILLEGAL DRUGS WHICH SHE WAS IN POSSESSION OF. It wasn't just Jesus, a book, and pancakes. She sure as hell didn't say this when she was being touted as the new Jean D'Arc. And, she's a double-hypocrite because she gave HIM ILLEGAL DRUGS WHICH SHE WAS HOLDING but refused to take them herself, because that would be a sin, standing before God methed up. OMG>

Man, the vast majority on DU NEVER slam Xians... just hypocrites masquerading as Xians. Ashely Smith needs to STFU now.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:44 AM
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24. Yes..
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 07:53 AM by sendero
.... why bother. By their fruits you shall know them, I see Christianity as part of the problem not the solution.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:49 AM
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26. As a Christian, I felt something was always funny about this story
It is too bad that the truth couldn't come out right away. It is clear that both of them were at the bottom and hopefully ending the manhunt will provide them both with a chance to get their heads straight. I'm more likely to believe that God spared them than the meth helping anything. Ashley looks like another hypocrite that isn't using her own willpower to straighten out. The media is another story altogether.
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