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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:33 PM
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Will the BBV folks be screaming stolen election
if Arnold wins as the exit polls seem to be projecting?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:35 PM
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1. Depends on the number
of people off the rolls, if it is significant, yes.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:35 PM
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2. How will anyone ever know if an election was stolen again?
There will be no evidence, unless there is a confession.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:37 PM
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:37 PM
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4. have you ever used a touchsreen machine?
Edited on Tue Oct-07-03 06:57 PM by noiretblu
i just got back from voting on one...and i am concerned about BBV. there didn't seem to be a discrete number assigned to my vote. the machine only tallies the number of votes, and i was number 85 on the machine. no one interviewed me for an exit poll either. the polls are open here for another 3 1/2 hours...it's still too earlier to be claiming victory for ahhnold. and of course, some people haven't voted yet. please: give it a rest a least until after the polls close here. thank you.
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even Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:43 PM
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6. Thank you!
I can add nothing to your post.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:59 PM
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11. thank you! another reminder: the polls are still open here, folks
and no one interviewed ME for exit polling...so can we wait to claim victory for ahhnold, please. thanks again.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:37 PM
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5. The university types promise to analyse the results carefully...
especially as this is a mixed equipment election. If that analysis shows a huge difference in precincts that used various forms of voting equipment, then hell yes we'll scream.

I'm also concerned that other forms of voter suppression was used today.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:45 PM
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7. Knowing what we know already
HELL YES, it was stolen. And all kinds of messed up counting went on and the machines screwed up and, and, etc.

If exit polls were good enough, then hell, we'd just settle for that, now, wouldn't we? You, jicantox, may be satisfied with exit polls but the rest of us are not. Guess that's a big diff between us, eh?
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:55 PM
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10. Well
You don't at all think that maybe in California really wanted Arnold as hard it is for all of us to accept?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:01 PM
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12. If Arnold is elected...
... will you finally admit that "sheeple" is as descriptive a term for them as possible?
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:02 PM
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13. No I won't
It will mean that we will have failed in communicating our message to them. I think that reasonable people can disagree on this issue.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:08 PM
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15. The message was there...
... I'm betting most of the people who voted for Arnold didn't want to hear any message. They voted for a *governor* based on nothing but his celebrity. Actually, "sheeple" would be a compliment, they are morons and they will rue the day they made such a stupid move. IMHO of course, they might not have enough snap to rue any day :)
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:09 PM
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16. Horseshit!
"we will have failed in communicating our message to them."

It means Diebold was successful and the DLC message is a right wing message Carlos.
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KFC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:46 PM
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8. Not as long as the election results are similar to the exit polls
If the final results and exit poll numbers are reasonably similar, that is one indication that no significant tampering has occurred.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:53 PM
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9. Decide For Yourself:
Not Just BBV: Many Problems with the Rolls

http://whitestarwebsitedesign.com/bbvreport/modules.php...
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:08 PM
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14. Hello McCarlos are you there? Nope...
He has given over to the DLC. Knock em dead Carlos. He probably will not see this, as I am quite sure he has me on ignore. If not his derision of a serious problem completes my mental image of him. He reminds me of my friend Allan...he is a dyed in the wool Republican...never sees the forest for the trees. His continual bashing of Nader and the Green Party is a feeble attempt at shifting blame. The facts are, no matter how you slice them. The election was stolen in Florida; The DLC rolled over and played dead, all while the Republicans shit on The Constitution.

But go on blaming Nader, if that makes you feel better. But in the end, it was the failure of the DLC and everything you stand for that lost the election. You really irritate the shit out of me and you whine constantly. If you dont like things dont blame meblame the DINOs. Your problems are there. Not with Nader. You better watch the Greens Carlosthey are coming to get you. Yes Arnold will more than likely win the election. Thanks to Diebold(TM).
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:14 PM
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18. Your offensive, snide, insuliting post aside
I am not a member of the DLC. Why do you continue to lie about me?

As for the 2000 election, maybe if your Nader hadn't been on the ballot, it would not have been an issue. But like most Nader apologists you go to extreme lenghts to rationalize him.

As for the "DLC rolling over" maybe if the Greens hadn't voted for Nader the problem wouldn't have happed. I forgot--the Greens and their extremist followers are never responsible for anything.

What was Gore going to do? Squat at the White House and refuse to leave after 12/12/00? Run down the streets of Washington rioting and mooning people? Stand in front of Bush's limo Pennsylvania Avenue?

Also it is telling how you are a Nader apologist. I guess that you can use the BBV conspiracy as an excuse to rationalize a Green vote next year.

Maybe that is why that some of the strongest BBV conspiracy theorists also happen to be Greens.

You really irritate the shit out of me. Maybe you should look in the mirror and you will find out arrogant and self-righteous you are.
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birdman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:12 PM
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They'll be screaming
even if the muscle-bound piece of shit loses.

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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:12 PM
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17. Locking
Please do not use inflammatory language when starting threads in the General Discussion Forum.

Thank you
AnnabelLee
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