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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:50 PM
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Uh ... how many dead in NOLA? Anybody?
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 06:52 PM by linazelle
I've been away for a bit, but I've heard very little about the death toll. Seems to me that the corporate owned media has sewn the gaping wound that was NOLA shut and we are, in the words of **'s evangelical base, "healed."

Back to business as usual. Shuffle along. Nothing to see here.

If Bush gets away with dismissing the deaths of these people, there is no fate harmful enough for him.

:cry:
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:53 PM
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1. Or how about Mississippi?
Entire towns washed away, reports of bodies lined up along the highway, and the total, last I heard, was just 200.
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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:53 PM
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2. About 1900 according to Anderson Cooper…
I just saw the figure briefly and CNN may post it again. Keith will almost certainly mention it in a few minutes or so.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:53 PM
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3. I read 1000 last week. Don't know since then.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:58 PM
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4. By the end of the * Administration's count...
It will be 3. All those bodies we saw floating were just accidental tricks of light. No no, I mean they did die, but it was from natural causes like 'failure to breathe in water'. Those don't count. I mean, what bodies. You didn't see any bodies. All the so-called 'missing people' were actually raptured. Silly. Doubting God.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:01 PM
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6. May as well call the people in the white jackets then...
It's me. I have to get control of my imagination. :sarcasm:
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:59 PM
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5. Are you asking for just the city or everywhere? n/t
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:03 PM
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8. I really want to know about NOLA, because I believe the death toll
was astronomical. I believe that the death toll in NOLA, coupled with that of all Katrina victims, will also be shocking. But NOLA alone--because nearly the entire city perished--is what I'm interested in.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 10:17 PM
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20. I think the count is going to be shocking, all right.
I think it's going to be shockingly low, because I think they are 'managing' this event. Not much will be remaining of these remains, soon. And what with the grieving families scattered about and largely impoverished...
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:01 PM
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7. I heard there were 6 dead from Rita - no 7 - I just heard now.
I have no idea why they aren't giving updates on Katrina deaths in NO - they even make a point that nobody in NO died due to Rita. That's nice, but we still haven't found a whole lot of dead folks in NO...
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:36 PM
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15. And what about the 23 people killed on the bus, why aren't
we counting those in Rita's death toll. Unless we are keeping a separate count of this administration's death toll, they should be included.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:05 PM
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17. I thought it was 24
...and I can't answer your question.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:03 PM
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9. They don't count votes.
They don't count dead Iraqis. They don't accurately count military deaths. They don't count dead americans. They don't count protesters.

With fuzzy math and voodoo economics, they get away with inflicting mass murder and empoverishment.

There is very little credibility left in this once great country.

It's a crying shame.

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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:05 PM
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10. You are so right. Unfortunately, I have to agree. nt
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:05 PM
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11. Republicans can't count.
Is that what you're trying to say? :) I can see your point.
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:06 PM
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12. The last I heard
They were in the third stage of picking up the dead and that was suppose to take place while most of the water was pumped out.

Now it seems Rita has flooded those areas again and so I guess this will hold things up.

My guess is they will not get all the dead until well after all of the water has been pumped out of NO.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:23 PM
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13. Link
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 07:23 PM by igil
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/26/news.update.mon/index.html?section=cnn_latest (not that the link is likely to be stable)

Katrina death toll continues to rise

BATON ROUGE, La. (CNN) -- The death toll from Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath now stands at 1,098 -- the third deadliest storm in U.S. history.

The following is the state-by-state breakdown:

-- Louisiana: 864

-- Mississippi: 219

-- Florida: 11

-- Alabama: 2

-- Georgia: 2 (Posted 7:44 p.m.)


I will say that I've seen 220 widely reported today for MS.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:32 PM
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14. Nagin and FEMA got a deal on house searches
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 07:36 PM by uppityperson
only search the ones flooded over 5 1/2 ft or those showing signs of life. Seriously. I don't understand it, but this is the most recent way to search. I guess they are searching for survivors, hence the "signs of life", but not searching under 5 1/2ft mucked I don't get.

Edited to add link Fri Sept 23, 2005
http://www.nola.com/newslogs/tporleans/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_tporleans/archives/2005_09_23.html
FEMA works under a rule, approved by city officials: If the flood water levels had reached 5 1/2 feet, the team would break into the house to search for people. Homes that had lower levels were only forced into if signs of life appeared from outside.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:40 PM
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16. I guess the rest of the bodies will be trashed with the debris.
Nagin is crazy for agreeing to this, IMHO.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:40 PM
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18. yup
so many things make me want to run screaming in circles.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 06:23 PM
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21. Yes, which is why I took a break from DU. But I STILL think
we should be doing SOMETHING to bring this issue to the forefront. Right now there are a lot of disjointed clearinghouses for "missing" people. No way to match up or distinguish who is missing from who is dead--or to reconcile the two.

If the Red Cross can establish fundraising on every media channel and in every retail outlet you KNOW that FEMA or some other federal agency can establish a clearinghouse.

They don't want these people to be accounted for. They don't want them to count at all--just like our votes.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:55 PM
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19. wait til the families start holding funerals and memorials for...
..."the missing".


there ought to be a katrina memorial website where they can all be listed, like the ones set-up after 9/11.
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