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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:12 PM
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Goosestepping in DU?
I have been here for a little over a year and I have grown to love this place until today. I think I have probably only started 3 or 4 threads here over that year. I fully expect this to sink into oblivion very quickly or get me booted but I am very angry. I have two quotes from a previous thread, no names, just a question and an answer and I think they are very important when considering how big a tent we can actually claim.

"HUH? I didn't realize we had posters that will not support the Dem nominee no matter who gets it. OMG. I sure would like to know who they are."

Just a question. No problem. Then the answer several posts later.

"A lot of us know who they are and if we're still all here in 2005...and Bush squeaks in...they'll be reminded."

Anyone else have a problem with this?
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:14 PM
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1. Yeah
It strikes me as extremely petty.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:20 PM
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13. My question is petty?
Look. I stated that I am ABB second to my working for DK but this is almost a threat to others who may have different feelings. Can we not respect these people? How do you know when they get down to it that they won't have a change of heart? This kind of thing may make them think twice. It is bad to threaten people like this. Many of them are my friends, I am not as idealistic or true to my real feelings because I do feel threatened by Bush* most of all but really. This is just awful behavior when we need all of these people.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:14 PM
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2. No, not really.
I think you're being just a tad bit overly sensitive. This is a really important, emotional issue for people, we MUST get Shrub out of office no matter what, ANYONE would be better. So, for someone to say they won't vote for the Dem nominee is akin to saying you want four more years of Bushit, in which case the country may not, frankly, survive as we know it.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:17 PM
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8. in other words "You're with us or against us!"
:eyes:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:23 PM
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16. It was very
upsetting to come to DU and see two or three threads questioning if I was really a "good" democrat because most people who support DK, (you know this is true), are really full of crap and not really imterested in this country only their own petty concerns. It is not true and after many days of this I am angry. Want to remember my name and come and get me later? Is that what we are getting to here?
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:16 PM
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3. If someone helps Bush get elected, like Nader did in 2000, I'll remember
Is that bad?

I supported Cruz running in the recall and it looks like I was wrong. I'm sure some people here will remember that I was wrong about that too.

What's the point?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:19 PM
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11. It looks like you were wrong?
What do you mean? I don't see any real problem with Bustamonte running in the recall...
Maybe Im missing something...
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:16 PM
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4. I thought just about everyone would be against Bush
Edited on Tue Oct-07-03 06:17 PM by quinnox
and want to see him go at DU (well, except for certain unmentionable elements such as stealth dittoheads). I really don't see a problem here?
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:16 PM
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5. not at all
I expect it :eyes:
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:17 PM
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6. welcome
to the world that more than a few of us inhabit, if only because defeating Bush isn't the *sole* reason we're interested in politics.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:17 PM
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7. Yeah I have to agree
And you are right, I can't really remember reading a thread which you have started...

If someone wants to vote for a third party, for Bush, whatever, fine.

All I ask is that they not strut around saying, "Don't blame me, I voted for _______". I don't think its reasonalbe to bitch about Republicans when you aren't helping their only opposition.

Maybe that makes sense.

But, no, I don't hold the fact that people vote for a third party candidate against them.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:18 PM
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10. opposition? that's a JOKE
a JOKE!!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:20 PM
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12. Ok, thats true
I just needed a better word for it. What I'm saying is that I think most of us, no matter who we are going to vote for, that our presidents will be either Democrats or Republicans for the next several years.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:17 PM
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9. I'm not overly concerned with the comments you mention
and I really think you needn't be either. Both comments seem pretty tame, relative to your thread headline. Which is quite an accusation.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:21 PM
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14. Locking.

If you have questions and concerns about DU policy
and/or other posters, please feel free to post them
in the Ask the Administrators forum.

Thanks.

kaitykaity
DU Moderator
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:23 PM
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15. If Bush squeaks in in 2005 based on a split left vote...
... and I recognize someone who said they WOULD NOT vote for the dem candidate if it isn't __________, and that person makes one complaining post about Bush, then hell yes I'm going to point out that person's voting choice.

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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:27 PM
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17. I read that thread and half expected a lynching posse to round us up
Some of those posts reminded me how easy it is to be seduced by the fascistic tendencies we like to claim are the sole province of the Freepers.

The post you site reads like a 10 year old bully demanding people step forward and take their beating for their beliefs. I would expect that kind of thing at wing-nut sites, but it is disturbing here. But I am not surprised, the level of progressivism seems to be decreasing by the day at DU.

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