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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:53 PM
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What is up with the defeatism?

The polls have not even closed in CA. I don't like defeatism.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:54 PM
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1. that is the lib'ral media
at work, to be honest
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:54 PM
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2. I agree Sagan...
I don't understand it???
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:54 PM
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3. I've had it with all the defeatism
Can't take it any more.

I quit.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:57 PM
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8. Have Faith
Defeatism WILL prevail if you really really believe.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:54 PM
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4. A kick for speaking the truth, Sagan
(though some no doubt will find my comments hypocritical, but I have always said that the Bushevik Destruction of the American Experiment is still in doubt)
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:56 PM
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5. I don't know
Edited on Tue Oct-07-03 06:00 PM by proud patriot
but I'm not going to let it get me down.

I still think the recall will fail
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:56 PM
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6. We're Just Taking Our Cues From The Media
who thanks to exit polling has a pretty good idea of what's going to happen....
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:59 PM
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10. are those like the 2002 exit polls?

the ones that showed all those "tight" races the repugs won "miraculously".

Don't fulfill the news media. MAKE the news!
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:56 PM
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7. Me either...
... I thought the polls looked close. Let's don't cry in our beer until we have something to cry about.

And I'm not as convinced as many here that getting Arnold is such a bad thing. He will be inheriting a problem that is way, way, way over his little bitty head, and the idea he's going to engineer a write-off for Enron is suspect. The cameras will be on him and how will he spin that?

I know also that many seem to think that this will have something to do with the way Cali goes in 2004. Could it not cut both ways?
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:04 PM
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16. havent seen these defeatist posts and wont expect the worst either....
Even if Schwartzeneger wins the office he will face a democratic legislature which certainly will not roll over and play dead for him.....Perhaps, should he win ( though I hope to heck he is defeated)his total lack of ability or preparedness to be a governor will be exposed dramatically and all those knuckleheads who voted for him will learn what it means to vote for buzzwords and empty phrases!
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:59 PM
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9. It's not just the 'Liberal Media" promoting the Defeatism---
It's particular posters here at DU who love to act like know-it-alls who have some sort of secret exit polling showing Arnold winning. It's quite disgusting.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:00 PM
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11. Thanks, Sagan! The polls don't close for another 4 hours!
Now, I haven't voted yet...If I were a dummy, I'd be saying, "uh, gee, everyone's saying that Arnold's the winner, so I guess there's no use in voting now."

Well, I'm not that stupid, and I am going to go vote soon. But the defeatism is really a slap in the face of all the volunteers who are working their asses off trying to stop this bogus recall.

:kick:
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:00 PM
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12. freepers have the champagne on ice
I'm very worried that this may be in the bag for Ahnuld


I haven't given up hope yet but I'm VERY worried
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cupcake Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:13 PM
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18. same here.
I think this could be a verrrry looong night. And they'll probably "call it" before the returns are in tomorrow morning. It doesn't sound real encouraging at this point.

Sometimes I wonder if an election day media blackout would be a good thing?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:01 PM
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13. it's a defense mechanism against disappointment
we DUers have known so, so much disappointment.
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:02 PM
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14. ha! don't tell ME about disappointment!

I was born, raised and currently reside in TEXAS!

If I can keep fighting, Californians and everyone else can.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:02 PM
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15. It's common
Edited on Tue Oct-07-03 06:03 PM by quinnox
I noticed defeatism is unusually common at DU, I don't know why. Maybe because of Bush (the little tyrant) being in office, I can understand why people would go a little crazy over this. I'm a relentless optimist myself, probably why I notice the defeatism more.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:07 PM
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17. it's a Freeper Mole tactic
sowing the seeds of discontent
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:16 PM
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19. I've been thinking the very same thing! "defeatism"...is what
sucks! How's it lookin' out there ..I've been thinking about California all day, today!
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:59 PM
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20. You don't have to be a weatherman...
to know which way the wind blows.


It's not defeatism, it's having a grip on reality.
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:06 PM
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21. Defeatism is
great at keeping people away from the polls.

Some see a single biased 'exit poll' and decide to not even bother voting.
It's a political tactic that has been done many times before.
:eyes:

BTW, this is one Californian who hasn't had the opportunity to vote yet!
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:21 PM
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22. what's defeated? NO will win by 2 percentage points!
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