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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:08 PM
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Art Torres Sounds Like He Has Thrown In The Towel....
I can't f--king believe we let the R's steal the governorship from us.....

This is a sad day....
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:13 PM
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1. What did Art say?
I'm stuck in a cube farm and can't see the light of day until 5:00.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:14 PM
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2. Yeah info please.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:15 PM
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3. It's What He Didn't Say....
He didn't say the recall would lose....


Now, Willy Brown is not saying the recall will lose....


I am mad....


I am so f--king mad.....


I bleed Democratic....
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:15 PM
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4. Yeah - all DUers would be better off staying home instead of voting
because its already a lost cause right?

Is that the gist of what you're saying?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:17 PM
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5. That's The Gist
of what Willy Brown and Art Torres said or more importantly didn't say....


I think they have a bigger platform than me.....
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:17 PM
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6. I just saw Willie Brown
and have to admit this isn't looking good. The general assumption was that Davis was gone and Arnold in.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:18 PM
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8. Thank You.....
NT


What a mess......


What a fine mess.....
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:20 PM
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9. Shadows of Florida
How much you wanna bet this is not over tonight?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:49 PM
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26. I wouldn't touch a bet like that
There will be controversy.

There will be recounts.

There will be legal challenges.
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Athletic Grrl Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:20 PM
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37. No it won't.
Orange County announced early this morning their votes wouldn't be in until tomorrow morning. Being a Freeper stronghold, this is important....
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Composed Thinker Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:22 PM
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10. How did he reveal that?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:24 PM
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11. He Wasn't His Buoyant Self....
and he spoke hypothetically of the problems Arnold will have in Sacramento...



They are privy to way more information than us....
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Composed Thinker Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:26 PM
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14. I wouldn't be too morose about that
Remember, there are those absentee ballots that need to be counted.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:31 PM
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21. could be that he's been awake for 4 days, too
which I don't doubt
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:18 PM
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7. Right Wing Radio in Seattle is extremely cocky of Arnold win
Spouted off some statistics "that he wouldn't share if this were an National Audience". I didn't catch, them but was saying recall wins and Arnold wins. I sure hope he's too cocky for his own good.

My only reponse:
Fine. Davis recalled? Bush is next.


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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:24 PM
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12. Um, how do you see that happening?
There is no recall provision for presidents and, barring something worse than Watergate, there is no way that a Republican controlled HOR impeaches Bush and a Republican controlled Senate convicts him.

The only way that Bush is leaving the White House in the next couple of years is if he loses the 2004 election.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:25 PM
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13. We Need To Work Our Fingers To The Bone To Ensure * Is Defeated...
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:27 PM
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17. Just using the Recall as a metaphor
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:29 PM
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18. Of Course
We need a metaphor for the past three years under*...


I guess peace and prosperity were boring....
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didntvote4shrub Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:30 PM
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20. Well..
::::The only way that Bush is leaving the White House in the next couple of years is if he loses the 2004 election.::::

...there's always mental or physical breakdown, or the 'elected in a -0' jinx. Or not running, ala Johnson (not that that's remotely likely). Hey, I'm willing to take help, wherever it comes from.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:32 PM
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22. Hi didntvote4shrub!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:26 PM
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15. I am going to make some more phone calls
It might be in vain, but it's better than crying over a defeat that hasn't happened yet.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:27 PM
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16. Call Art Torres And Willy Brown
and tell them to stay off t v if they can't rally the troops....
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:29 PM
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19. Democrats need a spanking
It sickens me that the democrats put all their eggs in the recall basket, knowing that they could have found a legitimate candidate(sorry Cruz) who could have kicked Arnolds BUTT!!!!!!
Now, they are looking foolish and are giving California to Dubya on a silver platter and we wonder where the party is going. I know, no where fast!!!!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:46 PM
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23. The good part......
Cali is unmanageable......

Unlike the federal government it can't defecit spend...


There is an ancient Chinese proverb....

There are two ways to defeat your enemy.... You can dig a hole and wait for him to fall in or you can put him on top of a mountain and wait for him to fall off.....

Arnold's in for a fall.....
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:47 PM
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24. Feinstein would have been a slam dunk
and a much better governor than Davis too, IMO.
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cupcake Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:07 PM
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34. Would she run to get rid of Arnold?
or Boxer? who can get him out of Sacramento?
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:47 PM
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25. Agree on one part
They should have run someone who could actually win.

NOt sure they are handing the state over to Bush in 2004 though
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:50 PM
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27. I volunteer to spank Willie Brown
My family has a personal/political beef with him.

:evilgrin:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:53 PM
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28. He Seems O K To Me
but my exposure is limited to t v...


and I'm a shill for any Dem......
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:57 PM
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29. It gets worse on the same show
All four editors they had on agreed that Arnold will win. One felt he would do better than Davis. Very sad.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:59 PM
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30. I Changed The Channel
to the Playboy Channel


Just Kidding....


I have cable but not premium cable....


Kids.....


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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:02 PM
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31. I had to turn on a movie instead....
The Odd Couple. At least they're a couple of old lefties.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:03 PM
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32. What it's coming down to
is we're going to have to run celebrities. I hate the thought, but this seems to be the way it's going. Funny how the Repugs are forever saying that celebrities should keep their mouths shut when it comes to politics, but it seem sthat every celebrity that's been elected to office has been a Repug.

Martin Sheen, anyone? Of course most live in California or New York.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:05 PM
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33. I Was Thinking About That.....
Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Tom Cruise, Ben Affleck are all lefties....
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:10 PM
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35. I thought Cruise was a Republican
I like George Clooney better, anyway.

And Harrison Ford.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:12 PM
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36. Once again the Republicans bring America down lower
Edited on Tue Oct-07-03 06:12 PM by Democat
Like the impeachment, and the court appointing Bush in Florida, the California election theft by an anti-woman Hitler fan puppet will make America more of a laughing stock around the world and be another step on our way to being a has-been super power.

The right wing idiots who are so proud of America being "number one" are the same ones will insure that it doesn't stay that way very much longer.
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